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[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

I mean c/NCD would strongly disagree with you...

(totally not for the Green M1A4 and CIWS memes)

Edit: oh duck I didn't realize what instance this was... I am the stupid

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[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (6 children)

It's probably because sending old scraps to Ukraine doesn't make any money. Sending soldiers to die in Afghanistan was futile and guaranteed the production, sale, and shipment of more military tech/vehicles. Sending shit that was already made just costs money and doesn't fellate the military industrial complex.

[–] force@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Does it really cost money though? I would think that it's far more expensive to just store & maintain our massive pile of outdated equipment. I imagine the military would be relieved to finally get rid of their hundreds of shitty A-10s rather than constantly pay for their existence at least, it seems like it'd save a lot of money. hint hint

I mean I wouldn't wish using the A-10 upon anybody (eugh), especially Ukrainians. But it would be good for money

[–] _xDEADBEEF@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Don't forget the cost of disposal of expiring ammo, if not used on the range.

[–] drphungky@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The idea that you think people in the Bush administration sent soldiers to Afghanistan to make money is insane, and shows me you have never worked in government or met anyone who has. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant Iraq, not Afghanistan (since the US was attacked and the whole world agreed on going into Afghanistan). But even for Iraq, no one is making calculations on what's good for the military industrial complex - they're guessing on if the cost of human life is worth the human lives saved and suffering prevented, and yes "spreading democracy". We can certainly mock it now, and talk about the WMD justification proving false, but the idea of going to war to somehow make money is insane. War is a net negative (look up broken window theory) and everyone in government knows it. The point of war is to change the global order, not pad pocketbooks, and effecting global change still would be the point even if it worked for making money - which it doesn't.

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[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

To be fair, I always thought that the USA is more willing to do the latter rather than the former. And those protests existed in both cases, so a meme of an opposite meaning could probably be made. Or is it just that I don't get the deepness of the joke?

[–] Fitzsimmons@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

This isn't that complicated. Imagine what would have happened in Iraq or Afghanistan if the president was an intelligence asset they had cultivated for decades. Not to mention tons of senators, represntatives, and influential NGOs like the NRA. Also all those social media psyops that are disappointingly effective at sowing division in the US.

Russia has an incredible amount of influence in the US and is still getting wolloped, although not nearly as much or as quickly as they should/could be.

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