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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 89 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Video games are art and art is the greatest weapon in our arsenal for making statements. Its also why right-wing "art" always fucken sucks and has no soul.

[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 42 points 10 months ago

that's what happens when you build an ideology on what you hate, instead of what you care about.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Huh, you just helped me realize why authoritarians only ever seem to produce realism, and no other art.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Communist countries also produced a lot of abstract art. Most of it was still soulless though.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

The US also prompted artists at the time to make abstract art that's soulless and sucks to show how "unconstrained" we were compared to soviet realism.

Turns out artists just don't make good art when force them to draw one specific thing for propaganda reasons.

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, realism is garbage reactionary art because realism is a garbage reactionary philosophy. Reality was invented by racist old white guys to justify slavery.

[–] i3c8XHV@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You got me in the first half.

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Google anarcho antirealism.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Very debatable. For a very long time almost all art in Europe was inspired by religion: architecture, painting, music, sculpture... It's as right wing as can be (no hint of progressive ideas). But I'll be damned if I don't appreciate a good Fra Angelico, a Gothic cathedral, or Mozart's requiem. I'm sure there must exist aesthetically pleasing Nazi artworks, out of context (SS uniforms are famously fashionable)

[–] 108@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ahh religion, makes everyone equal and not abused at all for control purposes.

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

Ahhh religion hate. Totally isn't an excuse to attack pagans and indigenous people under false pretenses

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It always sucks because it's propaganda. No don't listen to that evil devil music that talks about real shit, listen to this Jesus music that just talks about how great Jesus is and how feeling things is bad.

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Leftist propaganda is awesome and cool. Like Star Wars, which is about how resisting fascist governments through violence and paganism is good.

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 70 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

These are some good quotes here, and I realize this is slightly off topic but:

The whole thing with Aloy having peach fuzz.

I just... I still cannot get over that.

How... how is it even possible that a great number of people who ostensibly clamored for more realistic graphics... screamed and cried about peach fuzz on a young woman.

The... seemingly the only possible explanation is that they had simply never actually seen a girl or womans face up close.

It still just shocks me that that outburst was even a thing that could possibly happen.

Like, I am an autistic and often socially awkward guy, a video gamer through and through since the 90s.

But I've had female platonic friends my whole life, and girlfriends.

And I know that girls/women, -shock horror- even many young guys and young men have peach fuzz!

Fucking baffles me still to this day.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I think it's two things:

  1. a surprising number of gamers (not actually surprising) who've never seen a woman up close, and
  2. a number who have, but still want only the purest fantasy women in their games.

In a world where butthole bleaching and completely hairless vulvas exist, there's going to be a lot of people who like women but only if you modify and reshape them to their personal standards of perfection. In other words, they know what real women are like, they just don't want that, and they won't be happy until that changes for them.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

surprising number of gamers (not actually surprising) who've never seen a woman up close

“Don’t you guys have moms?”

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

So what you're saying is, these men aren't straight. They've seen what a woman looks like, and they're not interested. What they want is a new gender that looks a lot like a woman but without any humanity or "flaws". They're only attracted to a specific kind of nonexistent enby.

[–] doctordevice@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This just in: mammals have hair.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Not if they're CGI! Oh wait

[–] GhostMatter@lemmy.ca 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're just PANDERING to the WOKE feminist HERE on LEMMY. Just ACCEPT your MASCULINITY and STOP PANDERING!!1 /s

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I have unironically received exactly that kind of criticism for having this opinion before, and I have received it from incel misogynist men, as well as seemingly misguided women and individuals of all kinds of different non cis genders.

Both of these kinds of people have accused me of being performatively baffled, as if i am simply doing this disingenuously to build a cult social media following or something.

EDIT: Elsewhere on the internet, not here on lemmy.

[–] GhostMatter@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't doubt it. That is why I made sure to add the sarcasm tag, despite adding capitals on multiple words.

Lemmy has its share of assholes, I wouldn't have been surprised if that happened to you here either.

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

So far not yet, and I do appreciate the sarcasm tag.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't get why people get so riled up about things like that. Like the whole starfield thing, the dumbass gender debate. I played forza horizon with a friend because we both had gamepass for a month and he couldn't stop being weird about that they have body type 1 or 2, instead of male or female. People modding out rainbow flags out of spider man, and it becoming one of the more popular mods for the game. I couldn't imagine caring enough.

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do not forget the absolute insanity of Trans People Are Not Allowed To Exist in CYBERPUNK 2077, you know a game about a genre of challenging social conventions that has long historical crossover with the Trans Movement and community.

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No that one actually makes sense, CDPR are a transphobic company. No wonder they have transphobic players.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Yep that one's going in the dank bank.