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[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So unlikely that young people appreciate one of the few public spaces without loud traffic noise and air pollution...

And one that doesn't demand money just to exist in

[–] MsHearthWitch@wandering.shop 41 points 10 months ago

@gabe It's cuz we like reading and we're poor AF.

[–] LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Excellent source of audiobooks. And 3D printers

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mine has a whole maker space in it. It's great.

Also loads of comic books in the form of annuals and TPBs.

[–] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are maker spaces devoted to that around the world called “fab labs” equipped with CNRs, 3d printers, welding gear, etc, but the hourly prices are insane. A library seems like the wrong place for that sort of thing but I’m sure the price is right.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago

This isn't that involved, but they have several FDM printers, a cricut knockoff, several sewing machines, a serger, looms, and some other stuff. Nothing in the way of wood, metal, or pottery but still lots of interesting stuff that wouldn't have been in a library when I was a kid.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago

Have you seen how much books cost

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 14 points 10 months ago

I saw this article in today’s news briefing. It’s exciting. I hope it’ll help libraries to secure their fair share of public funding.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

[off topic]

'How Can I Help You,' by Laura Sims. A serial killer has found her niche hiding in a small town library. This is her story...

[–] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

from the article:

Younger generations tend to be more values driven than older ones, and libraries’ ethos of sharing seems to resonate with Gen Zers and millennials – as does a space that’s free from the insipid creep of commercialism. At the library, there are no ads and no fees – well, provided you return your books on time – and no cookies tracking and selling your behavior.

Actually we need to work on that.

Libraries do little to nothing to make browsers defensive w.r.t the intrusive web and some libraries even block Tor, which enables ad surveillance corps to monetize your data. PCs are usually all Windows (which has some baked-in surveillance) and often the systems are hardened so users cannot deploy¹ any kind of self-defense tools. Network users are sometimes blocked from using egress Tor traffic (iow, nothing that threatens the library itself). Library patrons are distrusted more than the surveillance advertisers on the other end. So patrons have to contend with both a spammy web and having their hands tied by excessive nannying.

I was unable to fetch the Debian OS at the library because the ISOs are no longer on the official mirror sites. Someone had to setup a server on a non-standard port. One particular library branch decided it was a good idea to arbitrarily block uncommon ports (WTF). And because the security was outsourced without support, the librarians were helpless.

Although to some extent these barriers might not put off millennials because they never experienced the free, open, and ad-free internet we had ~2—3 decades ago.

  1. sure it would be a recipe for disaster to let users install anything willy-nilly, but patrons should be able to lodge a ticket requesting a tool config they need.
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[–] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

similar study reported by the ALA. (pdf research paper which also cites PEW research center)

Interesting excerpt:

Gen Z and millennials’ high use of Amazon’s audio-book and ebook paid subscription services poses a challenge for libraries articularly because of “Amazon-exclusive” licensing, which prohibits some authors from distributing their work outside the Amazon ecosystem.