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[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 58 points 10 months ago (2 children)

YouTube has gotten more annoying for creators and less profitable, so some of the ones with enough in the bank are dipping out?

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I only watched Tom Scott's because he is/was actualy decent and basicaly its the same thing you probably already know, over the years when you're successful it becomes a full time job with no benefits no vacation and an absurd requirement for a regular uninterrupted schedule. You end up sacrificing everything, your body, your mind and even your family.

Eventualy as we know either you sell out and put your face behind someone's editing and script turning your channel into a "business" or you scale down/retire. He chooses to take a break but I am confident it is likely retirement from at least that sort of regularly scheduled content.

I don't think it is necessarily about profitability, if anything some niches are paying better than ever but obviously it is very top side heavy and a small channel can barely afford minimum wage while these celebrities are richer than ever.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Eventualy as we know either you sell out and put your face behind someone's editing and script turning your channel into a "business" or you scale down/retire.

Matt Pat is doing the former and trying to disguise it as the latter

[–] Sinistar@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

It's the smart move from his perspective. Imagine spending the next ten years of your life with everyone calling you the "zoomer avgn" because you read other people's scripts - no thanks!

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

Eventualy as we know either you sell out and put your face behind someone's editing and script turning your channel into a "business" or you scale down/retire.

AVGN lol. I know he has a family but damn it must be soul sucking to see your creation reduced to a shit load of fuck

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

Yeah I watch a medium sized game of thrones symbolism channel (100k subs) and the creator is about to quit too because of how much he gets jerked around. Videos constantly getting pre-reviewed and approved, then flagged and de-monitized, then re-monetized after the algorithm has tossed it aside

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Can SmarterEveryDay dip too please? That Destin guy used to make weapons for the military. Do not like him one bit.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I generally dislike basically everybody in the "Youtube Smart Person Who Tells You Information For 10-30 Minutes" sphere for various reasons (Tom Scott and 3Blue1Brown are the least aggravating for me as they're pretty good at staying in their lane), but by far the funniest (and most aggravating) part of their whole project is when they get onto China or the USSR in the middle of a video that doesn't immediately seem like it would be about that, and it just turns into a whole spiel like: "The totalitarian regime of China/USSR is well-known for their extensive censorship and the iron hand they have on the media, with many human rights abuses. According to recent estimates, the gulag system murdered 50 quintillion people under Stalin's terror alone, and not a single person was allowed to speak their mind. If you were the first to stop clapping during a Stalin speech, you would be executed. Anyway, as I was saying, this new flavour of ice cream was invented in the USSR in 1976..."

Like, wow, you're really doing a great job with that Bill Gates grant money.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 49 points 10 months ago

Kurzgesagt has to be the worst one, especially their so-true "We'll totally fix climate change, guys!" video. They're also literally funded by Bill Gates.

[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

protip: it's only whataboutism if you're mentioning bad things the USA does.

[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Tom Scott

neoliberal NPC who thinks 'rich people should build more nice fountains, wow!"

you're really doing a great job with that Bill Gates grant money.

https://redsails.org/on-anthony-bourdain/

a celebrity is “only” an A- or B-lister, until they are inspired to put aside childish things, as Obama said during his inauguration, quoting scripture. This celebrity then throws themselves into the world of humanitarian-branded, progressive-looking activism, generally three-letter State Department-connected NGOs which have been described more accurately as “the human rights-imperialism racket.” This celebrity then transcends mere stardom and becomes someone to whom we should look for not only entertainment, but moral and political guidance.

every neoliberal micro-celeb is a wannabee imperialist propagandist

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

tbh I agree with Tom Scott on that video to the degree that Jeff Bezos unveiling a big vanity art project completely free and open to the public would be a slightly better use of his money than launching his own ass into space

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Rich people should build more fountains though. That's a statement that doesn't even contradict the idea that rich people shouldn't exist. They do, and they should be building fountains until we eliminate them. I would also say it's not even liberal especially, but definitely not neo liberal. Throughout human history, where there are wealthy people they are financing public works and art to show off their wealth. They make gardens and parks and statues and temples to raise their prestige, as well as support something they like. Part of the reason most American cities look like shit is because all space was either administered by the government with the lowest possible budget and any spending that wasn't functionally essential(and quite a lot that was) got treated as a sin, or it was used by businesses. Vanity projects should be theater companies and artworks, not space flights and warehouses full of cars.

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[–] iain@feddit.nl 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

One time he went to a US submarine in the Arctic and thanked the soldiers for protecting the USA. AGAINST WHO? Polar bears? What a bootlicking loser.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

He was personally involved in the anti-rpg protection systems used on tanks and other armoured vehicles during the Iraq/Afghan wars and is very proud of his work "protecting people".

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

Worse was the one where he had some interview with the general in charge of psyops who pointed out that he was disseminating US military propaganda in his videos and he was just like "wow I can't believe it that's so interesting".

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

SmarterEveryDay is also one of those guys who makes his kids call him sir

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's one of the absolute worst vibes.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

A truly rancid vibe

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[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

I quit watching after that video came out. Fuck that guy.

[–] Dalek@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

I think the conspiracy lot (Bright Inside, Voyager etc) need to take a break..

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago (3 children)

New US propaganda department?

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

I can't wait to see a Joel Haver pro-war add. Him just awkwardly arguing to a depressed looking girl why nuking Iran is good, and then Trent shows up and... idk says he's out of toothpaste or something else quirky.

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[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So between this, that recent upsurge in struggle against ad blockers, and the timing for the beginning of a quarter, one can expect some horrible copyright mutation or a real ethically reprehensible new development. Like you have to become a YouTube employee with US army oversight to use Nintendo IP or something

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

No idea what did you said but yeah

[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

timing is extra weird IMO, because I think the real dystopian economic inflection point is closer to 1-10 years away, so these people should be grinding while their over-paid careers still exist. But maybe they already have enough in the bank and in the monthly passive incums to retire early or fund their real dream projects. It's like how dark matter explains a gap in the math, but nobody knows what dark matter is. Definitely expecting to find out something.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

I feel like they'd have a better grasp of the situation than you would, because they're inside and privy to more information and experience of how it works. I can also imagine some people see the same thing they do and are using the strategy you've suggested, but we can't see that. Tom Scott and matpat both try to avoid problems and real controversy, so if they felt something coming they would naturally dip before getting close to it.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Haver isn't retiring though, he's just going to focus on longer form projects, which I'm sure everyone here will hate.

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[–] Dalek@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

English guyy in the top left pane wanted to use unpaid work and ideas for his videos as he'd run out of ideas.... Nobody called him out on it.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you talking about the AI content or something else? Because using it to come up with ideas is honestly not a problem in my opinion. If someone suggests something in conversation it's not stealing to do it, especially if it's vague like the AI prompts usually are

[–] Dalek@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nah he literally made a whole video on asking people to give him everything from ideas to scripts.. ideas are one thing, but full scripting is work.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

He didn't lie, trick anyone, or steal anything. I can see why you'd dislike it, but people voluntarily giving up their own labor is not something I get worked up over, especially when we don't know if he even used it.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Did Tom Scott used any unpaid labor or ideas as of yet?

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tom Scott asks viewers if they know of any interesting places for him to go visit, since his videos are about interesting places and things. Nothing crazy, essentially like a music critic asking if any fans want an album reviewed. Which many will actually charge for via Patreon. The fan who requests the video didn't make the video. Many of his videos contain too much personal experience to be plagarised or anything of the sort, it's obvious that Tom at least has a major role in writing the videos.

Plus, he pays people to subtitle and revoice his videos in a ton of different languages. I think it's odd to assume that he doesn't pay people that help with writing when it's been shown that he pays people for services that Google literally asks fans to do for free.

Calling it "wanting to use ideas for free" is technically accurate but wrong. Asking fans what videos they want to see typically isn't seen as a bad thing. Dude traveled the globe for a decade looking for random cool shit and local town lores, of course he's asking his giant community for leads on weird local things.

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[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is the tweet suggesting we can infer the existence of youtube with the loss of creators? I mean.....I guess? Not a major revelation though.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 39 points 10 months ago

I think the implication is that the US has a clandestine memes of mass destruction project

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The idea is there's either some project they're working on, or some other problem that's currently out of public eyes they're avoiding.

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[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is not a small enough number to express how little of a fuck I give about any one of these people quitting

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Hey, don't dump on Tom Scott

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah Tom Scott is good

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

bit idea: youtubers who are quitting make one last video of themselves playing with a demon core

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

so they're implying that a bunch of internet celebs are....building a bomb?

Maybe if it was NileRed I could believe them

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

they're building the ultimate propaganda

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[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

why is bro's name "aids"

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Did they thank anyone for fish? If so, that is a bad sign...

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Is scient people a way of saying scientists or are they the Sient people of the Scient Nation?

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