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[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you know I think most people understand that a comedian's "role" is to be funny, right. and then, they will argue against that comedian, on the basis that they are not living up to their role, they're not funny. dave's wrong because he's not funny. if only dave was funny, then what he's doing would be fine! I think this is kind of misguided, kind of dumb. you argue against them, accepting the premise of their argument, but then you have an inability to fully take their perspective, see the comedy they apparently can see, and then it kind of falls flat. you're also not the arbiter of comedy, like, have some perspective, some shitheels are going to find that funny, and their comedy, you know, it exists. we have to stop pretending like it doesn't.

no, my issue isn't with his comedy, whether or not he's funny, I don't really give a shit about that. I care about whether or not what he's doing is morally right. comedy is just kind of blatant escapism anyways. are the dozens of people saved from suicide by direct consequence of watching dave's comedy, are they worth the lifetimes of time wasted on watching him? I don't want to get like morally puritanical about all media, or say that countercultural media has no place in society, right, but I also think that you have to be trying to do something with your media. just kind of throwing it out there so people can whittle away their life on laughing at your funnyman jokes is kind of lame. that's why george carlin was good. george carlin was actually not that funny. I know, sacrilege, heresy, whatever. I prefer mitch hedberg, pure wordplay. it's not that he was funny, it's that he was legitimately correct, and radical for the time, and unfortunately still somewhat radical today. but it stems from the fact that he was correct. dave being funny, not funny, whatever. but dave is just blatantly incorrect in his worldview, here. the perspective from which he makes these jokes, i'm sure the jokes he's cracking are funny from that perspective, but it's a wrong perspective, a bad perspective. it shouldn't like, not be allowed, be outlawed, not be conversed with, discussed, but it's a wrong perspective. and i find his comedy to be bad on that basis, rather than on the basis that he's not funny.

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[–] carnimoss@lemmings.world 12 points 10 months ago

Chappelle does this because of something people are afraid to talk about because of the identity of the person doing this. An easier way to understand it is identity politics. Didn't he admit that trans people get more shit than black people now? They don't even dog whistle us. People can talk about outright killing trans people and incite violence without any consequences. And it's not like the police like us either.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

no, the real reason Dave went after our hero was because they said something snide and laughed about Musk

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