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[–] appel@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I switched back to Firefox a few months ago due to the incoming Manifest v3 debacle and I'm glad I did, it's an excellent browser.

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really come a long way in the past few years. It used to be so slow when Chrome came in to take over

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

That perceived slowness comparison lasted less than a year!

[–] sep@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree compleatly. Been using firefox since it was called mosaic

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I didn't know this was a phase of it's existence

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Yeah it went Mosaic, Netscape, Firefox iirc.

Edit: And I think Netscape was a full rewrite as mosaic was owned by the university it was originally coded in, again iirc. That was a LONG time ago.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Netscape was Firefox? Somehow I never learned that. I fuckin loved the little space animation when a page was loading.

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's because it's not true. Firefox was first called firebird for a brief time... Otherwise its most closely related to the Mozilla browser... Netscape and mosaic aren't even related to each other... I don't know what this guy is smoking.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Netscape was my first browser on the beige apple desktops in the elementary school computer lab. I knew about it going on to become Firefox but not of anything before that. I still miss some aspects of the internet of that time.

[–] kspatlas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Mosaic, Netscape, Mozilla, Firefox

[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

So long ago that I had to go and use on a Sun workstation in the machine room because it wasn't available for windows yet!

[–] marker2002@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Wow. That's some blast from the past.

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a red panda isn't it?

[–] shmanio@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From their "Firefox name FAQ":

A "Firefox" is another name for the red panda.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Fuck me, I love learning, thanks for that.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm mainly using Firefox on my devices and have zero regrets.

I also enjoyed Vivaldi over the other chromium browsers. Still sticking with FF for now. The only issues I've had are Ms teams not loading, though km assuming that's related to 3rd party cookies ( even though o365 outlook works fine ).

MSteams is a dumpster fire in and of itself though. Even on my Windows pc it crashes when sharing my screen.

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[–] crsu@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I switched back to Firefox maybe 9 or 10 months ago after using opera gx for a while. Firefox had been great, and I love that they keep fighting the good fight, so to speak.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Opera GX, just like anything related to Opera, is a massive pile of shit.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These are pretty terrible arguments.

  1. Google is a primarily advertising based company yes, but Apple and Microsoft aren't
  2. You can't compare chromium to IE - chromium is open source, and also it's actually good
[–] chocolatine@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is the rendering engine monopoly. Apple and Microsoft browsers as well as chromium all use chrome rendering engine making them basically the same browser under the hood.

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[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Any Alternative to Brave? I have FF as primary browser but for some websites which tends to break on FF, I would like to use something non-Chrome/Brave on Windows.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Librewolf sounds like Brave, but built on top of Firefox. It also doesn't spam you with stupid ads like Brave does.

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago

But my alt should be Chromium based for the weird cases.

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Librewolf is better I think. It's pretty much a privacy hardened Firefox with the telemetry taken out. No odd crypto scheme like Brave either.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

No odd crypto scheme like Brave either.

That's a great point

[–] shadowspirit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FF is primary but started using Vivaldi as my chromium based browser.. I'm definitely not nerd level privacy geek but it hits all my check boxes for configuration, customization, and ease of use.

[–] Dougtron007@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I keep chromium as a secondary if something breaks on Firefox. It’s the foundation of chrome without all the silly Google shit.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dougtron007@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks, this is what I’m looking for.

[–] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use edge for the edge case when websites don't work after changing the user agent

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[–] Mars@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

If the site breaks on Firefox, probably it only works in chrome based, so I’d say just use ungoogled-chromium.

[–] MiddledAgedGuy@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

As far as non-Chrome goes, there's only two other modern browser engines. Webkit which is Apple stuff, and Gecko which is Firefox. So I don't believe so, no.

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[–] dog_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

How do you switch to Firefox if you use Firefox?

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm on firefox and I love it, but developing sites for chrome...

[–] DirtyCNC@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you're reading this and not using Firefox, do yourself a favor and don't wait until 2024 to switch.

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[–] gsf@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Trading the article, the CEO is meeting the assigned goals exceptionally well. The CEO does not give themselves the raise per se, but the board does, right?

As it turns out, moving away from Firefox is exactly Mozilla's plan.

Earlier this year, Mozilla laid out their vision for the future of their organization -- and it did not include Firefox.  The focus for the future of Mozilla -- according to Mozilla -- is primarily based around Artificial Intelligence services.

In fact, Mozilla leadership stated, quite plainly, that they intend to take Mozilla "in a different direction."

When you consider the goals of Mozilla... the decreasing Firefox marketshare is no longer much of a concern.  In fact, moving revenue away from Firefox, while investing in A.I. systems (and other subscription services) becomes the primary goal.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

oh cool my favorite thread again

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Also librewolf, a more open version of FF without the shit like Pocket

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Why wait until 2024 to switch when you can switch RIGHT NOW?

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