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Japan prepares regulation requiring Apple to allow sideloading::As the Digital Markets Act antitrust law passed in the European Union, Apple has until March 2024 to let users...

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[–] pearable@lemmy.ml 105 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Having app developers be able to avoid Apples forced 30% fee is great. The fee is pure rent seeking masquerading as curation.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Their curation is terrible too. The app store has so much shovelware crap

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 78 points 10 months ago (5 children)

legislation is expected to be sent to parliament next year and focuses on four areas: app stores and payments, search, browsers, and operating systems.

We also get Linux on iPhones??

And the talk is just about sideloading... :-)

[–] electric@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Big if true. Apple owners might actually be owners of their devices.

[–] driveway@lemmy.zip 16 points 10 months ago (12 children)
[–] flooppoolf@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Go see all the crazy kids on r/jailbreak asking the same questions over and over

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Not true. I'd love to be able to jailbreak again. I'm locked in to the ecosystem by work and a backlog of apps 15 years deep.

Granted I'm on Lemmy so I guess I'm not a normal iOS user

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 63 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Based Japan once again. I would love to see other countries requiring this too, but I'm not going to hold my breath unfortunately.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I mean, the EU has already done this and now Japan is doing the same. So i guess it's very well possible that other countries besides Japan will also follow suit.

[–] Cicraft@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Hehe Brussels effect go brrrr

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I tried to install an old version of San Andreas recently on my phone cause the last update broke controller support (which I actually bought with money).

Apparently we don't own our Android OBB directories anymore because of "safety".

So far the "we Android users already have this"...

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yep, it's unfortunate that manufacturers are taking more and more control away from users. That's why open-source software like Linux is so important, you can do anything you want to with it.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Back in the old days, Android OS used to be Open Source. You can still get firmware built up from the last release, such as CalyxOS, but in order to install it you have to buy directly from Google with the Bootloader Unlocked as a feature.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Not really. Fairphone also has the Bootloader unlocked.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

That's true.

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[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

God I miss the old days of android...the OG droid, everything was unlockable, no fuckery. Google hadn't yet slowly started adding data collection by ways of slowing moving functionality away from the core AOSP.

It still is open source, btw. But they're just intentionally choking it to death. They've recently announced they're not going to maintain the open source PHONE APP...FOR THEIR PHONES....for christ sake. They've even had a new replacement OS in the works for a couple years.

[–] DanVctr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish sadly

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[–] FMEEE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yeah Android is Linux. But Manufactures are limiting it so hard that it is sometimes nearly impossible to get a custom ROM on the phone.

[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. The openess of the operating system is meaningless if the phone's firmware isn't open.

[–] giggling_engine@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

It's open source so that anyone can manufacture a phone for it (good for business), not so you could install whatever you want on the hardware (bad for business)...

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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago (7 children)

sideloading would be nice; i have no idea how people can get proper work done on an ipad as of now (especially with apple at one point acting like it was only a matter of time for them to replace laptops). everything is so overly glossy and surface level and designed for children or the elderly; you can't actually DO anything!

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even with side loading, you will still be pretty limited as the iPad is decently locked down. First of all it needs a decent window manager. That alone would go a long way.

But honestly, these things should be running full blown macOS when they are docked to a mouse and keyboard.

They had an 11” air at one point, so screen size can’t be the issue.

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This could be the real "pro" iPhone. Running m3, acting as a phone by itself and throwing a full macOS with Office and Adobe Cloud apps when docked.

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yuh-huh! Just get a terminal emulator from the App Store. I will be just a few dollars a month. Then you can ssh into a Linux server you have somewhere.

See it’s an entire computer!

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] M500@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No you do not get it.

At Apple we make magical devices that are unlike anything done before. We have truly revolutionized computing with over priced hardware.

If you don’t have a Mac then you are not cool and not good at your job.

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[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's the point. They want people to use devices where information is given to them, but they can't interact with it or give something back.

They literally want us scrolling tiktok all day before it's time to get ready for work.

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[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Cool. This would be great. Hopefully a push to allow that in all other countries.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Now that's what I'm talking about.

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