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Nobara 39 Officially Released (nobaraproject.org)

submitted 10 months ago by simple@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Aside from being based on Fedora 39 now, KDE is now the official desktop environment replacing GNOME. The reasons why are in the article.

The GNOME version of Nobara still exists, but it's going to be the vanilla version shipped without any extensions (probably because many of them broke after moving to Fedora 39)

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Interesting to read those linked GNOME issue threads, they're really living up to their reputation... Looks like KDE is becoming the premier gaming DE, and I'm pretty happy with that.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

I'm a GNOME developer, and KDE is unfortunately the gaming and colour accurate work desktop at the moment.

Kinda wish the GNOME committee would pull its head out of its ass.

[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Reading the reasons why they switched to KDE is making me rethink why I'm using gnome

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cool, I've wanted to give this a go for a while but never really gelled with Gnome. I'll have to give it another look.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cool, I’ve wanted to give this a go for a while but never really gelled with Gnome.

Even before the switch of the default was Plasma already an option. It just wasn't the default.

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

Fair enough. I find if it's the default option, it's a better out-of-the-box experience as the devs would have spent more time on polishing etc.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 10 months ago

Fingers crossed the Wayland bug is gone and I can move to Wayland.

[–] Kristof12@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Nice that they changed to KDE

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly you should just stick to Fedora. If your looking for very user friendly then I would go for Linux mint.

[–] simple@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly you should just stick to Fedora.

Why?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Support and reliability

[–] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

IDK , Nobara is really stable. The main difference for me was that it comes with all the AV codecs you could need, and a few tweaks for gaming. Saved me a lot of time in the end.

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

These are the reasons why I would consider installing Nobara over Fedora....

[+] jcrabapple@infosec.pub -1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

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[–] kogasa@programming.dev 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Literally just install GNOME

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

As I understand it, that's not even needed because the current DE choice is being preserved at an upgrade. The only thing that needs manual tweaking is reinstalling the extensions from the Gnome website which isn't really an issue at all.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Dang. Guess I’ll be switching to Ublue Bazzite.

Which of the many bullet points in the changelog is the reason for that?

[–] jcrabapple@infosec.pub -2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don't like KDE and if Gnome is not going to be the main DE anymore I might just move to another distro. NBD.

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Gnome isn't the main DE of bazzite either though

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh, just let him have his hissy fit.

[–] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

TIL not liking something is a hissy fit. Thank you for this educational comment.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

TIL not liking something is a hissy fit.

While I don't know the term hissy fit, switching distributions just because the default of a user-changeable setting is different is definitively a bit over the top.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

They still have a gnome ISO, but you're going to throw it out because it isnt the "official" version. That sounds like a hissy fit.

The non-official KDE previous version was fine, since the point of the distro is the backend optimizations for gaming and editing. Its not what DE leads point since you can add whatever Fedora has in the repos, which is pretty much everything.

[–] quarterlife@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Speaking on Bazzite, KDE is our default to match SteamOS, but we put more effort into the GNOME release if anything due to us trying to maintain feature parity with Valve's KDE, including being able to right click and add to steam, use the desktop nested, enable VRR, add custom themes based on the ones Valve shipped, and add the steam deck wallpapers ported to GNOME.

That being said, GE's points about GNOME are very real, and they have a lot of catching to do in regards to gaming. KDE has DRM Leasing, VRR and HDR right now.

[–] jcrabapple@infosec.pub -1 points 10 months ago

I see that now. It's cool I'll just dual boot Nobara KDE and Fedora Silverblue or something.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gnome is still there, just not by default and Bazzite defaults to KDE Plasma as well.

[–] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just saw that. I'll keep looking.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I’ll keep looking.

But why? Not being the default doesn't mean that Gnome isn't available. As both are Fedora derivatives, both should have good Gnome support inherited from Fedora anyway. As the changelog says, only a handful of Gnome Shell extensions will no longer be provided in the Nobara repository but instaling them manually from extensions.gnome.org is a breeze.

[–] Rogers@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What are your main dislikes of kde?

[–] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've always experienced weird annoying bugs, and I much prefer the UX and minimalism of gnome. It's better for productivity. I don't just use my desktop for gaming.

[–] 8Bitz0@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is my complaint as well. KDE certainly has advantages and neat design ideas, but I always come across some major bugs that make my device unusable.

Definitely not saying GNOME doesn’t have bugs as well though.

[–] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago

Everything has bugs of course but I personally don't notice as many in Gnome and I just like the overall UX and workflow better.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Well, Nobara is a gaming-oriented distribution and as the changelog outlines, does Plasma currently offer technological benefits. As is the case with everything, this isn't set in stone and might change at some point but right now the main target audience for paid development work for Gnome are corporate users where for Plasma it's being Desktop Mode for Steam Deck.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

there still is a gnome spin... it just isn't the default

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Because of the switch to KDE from Gnome? Or something else I'm missing?

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This is a shit-tier post. Why hide the relevant information that's 2 sentences long?

Relevant information:

Better integration with Steam. By default the Steam Deck uses KDE as the desktop mode. This inherently means it receives updates from Valve in terms of desktop related fixes, and they are actively working with KDE developers to bring updates to KDE (https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/t2184m/is_there_any_cooperation_with_valve_and_kde/)

[–] simple@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I know reading is hard but you realize this quote was reason #5 of the many reasons listed... I'm not going to copy-paste the article, it's all relevant info.