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Rudy Giuliani: Electing Obama has 'taken us back 40 or 50 years on race relations'
(www.rawstory.com)
This leaky headed geriatric piece of shit can go fuck himself
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Obama was mediocre but refreshing because he was actually present in many ways
I don't know if I would consider him mediocre. His policies may not have been the greatest. However the nation's esteem while he was in office was unparalleled. There are always blind spots, but he was well spoken and inspiring. No President or most of Congress has even come close in the past 30 years.
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As a non American I thought he was better than most you've had since, maybe Carter
Yeah, Obama was really popular on the international stage. But domestically, he was milquetoast at best. Still better than Biden by miles, but he was 100% a centrist who ran as a liberal. Hell, on the international stage, he was considered conservative. Because the USA’s political spectrum had always leaned pretty far right, so a moderate conservative seems liberal by comparison.
The issue is that the republicans adopted a party policy of “we don’t care what it is. If Obama wants it, we’ll oppose it.” Not because they were against whatever Obama’s policy was, but because they had spent so long vilifying him to their voter base. It was suddenly political suicide for a Republican to agree with Obama. After all, they had been telling their voters that Obama was a Muslim, a terrorist, a satanist, a communist, a socialist, unamerican, coming for your guns, and any other insults they could think up.
So when Obama won the election, they suddenly had to vehemently oppose a man who was… Slightly right of center? This meant the pendulum had to swing way past the moderate right and landed squarely in fascist territory.
If Obama had actually been any of the things they accused him of, they probably would’ve been more moderate when opposing him. But since he was a centrist, they suddenly had to pander to the racists, the misogynists, the xenophobes. Those groups had always been conservative… But Obama was the first time in a long time that conservatives started saying the quiet part out loud, and pandering directly to those groups.
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Never ceases to amaze me how US politics is so full of incoherently babbling clowns.
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"Things were fine before minorities started being able to express themselves without pushback." - old white guys
Exactly. When people say Obama hurt race relations it's because those white people hated seeing black people succeeding where only whites could, triggering them into hating them more.
What he meant to say was that Republicans would have continued to pretend to not be racist and stuck to their wink wink dog whistles, but electing a black man president drove them so insane that they regressed 50 years and returned to being openly racist.
drove them so insane
This Onion story/video from right after Obama's ~~2016~~ 2012 win is very relevant and oddly prescient:
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Electing ~~Obama~~ Trump has 'taken us back 40 or 50 years on race relations'
fixed that for ya, Rudy
Like, this is the laziest attempt at projecting I've seen in a while. It's like watching someone become more bigoted as their facilities deteriorate from dementia, and it's just sad to watch.
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That's a funny way to say you hate black people, Rudy.
What in the demented word salad hell did I just read?
"You think it's accidental; I know it's Marxist planned and executed over a long period," he claimed. "Open border is not coincidental. The open border comes right out of Karl Marx. It comes right out of [communist activist] Saul Alinsky, who, by the way, Saul Alinsky and his acolytes taught Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton."
This shit? The insane musings of high profile Republicans.
Who the eff are all these marxists, communists, socialists, etc., wielding all this incredible power in the US and how do they stay so hidden? Deep state? But isn't the deep state mostly rich white guys pulling the strings?
The real communism was the capitalism we made on the way...or some shit
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They're so crafty that even the policy they're passing is pure neoliberal dreck that's to the right of Reagan. Nobody would suspect a thing!
Ah yes. The communists were not known for building walls in Berlin.
“Mr. Reagan, tear down this wall!”
Lead poisoning is a huge part of why the 60+ age bracket is acting so erratically now.
Ah yes, famed communist Obama, whose biggest accomplishment was shoveling huge amounts of cash to the health insurance industry in exchange for tiny concessions on the margins.
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These cunts really lost their shit when we elected a black guy.
Yeah, because all those tiki torch marches happened under Obama? Hmmm... good people on both sides? Well all the Black Lives Matters protests... no? Not Obama either?
See, if you just hadn't scared those white people by electing a black president, things would've been so much better!
It's basic abuser mentality. "Because a black person has dared to become president, you forced us to be more racist and divisive."
I think it’s time we send Rudy to live on a farm upstate.
I live upstate and we don't want him up here
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Conservatism = Racism
Thats not fair. Theres more to conservatism than Racism.
Theres also the misogyny, and xenophobia, hatred for the lower classes.
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Even from a right/conservative view of things this makes no sense. Obama was a fucking legal scholar. He'd learned CRT in the context of law and brought it to bear not at all in a social context.
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Maybe it took Guiliani back 40 years. He was at about 1920 before but he seems closer to 1880 now.
This feels like an onion article
Yeah, because all the creepy weirdos on the right absolutely FREAKED OUT that a "Kenyan usurper" was selected by We, The People to run the country.
Remember how ecstatic all these freaks were when OJ won just the EC? The memes of showing how OJ - King of the Birthers - was eclipsing Obama?
I'm sure none of those feelz from the right had anything to do with racism.
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“We would have all stayed under our rocks if YOU hadn’t forced us to freak out by electing a black guy”.
The right-wing reactionary response to Obama's election set race relations back.
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Why does Rudy think he has an opinion worth listening to on this matter?
Or anything else, really.
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Hey Rawstory, less reporting on what they say, more reporting on what they did, thanks.
Wait...it was just about ten years ago that they were saying racism was over because we had a Black president. Make up your mind, Rudolph.
Translation: when we elected Obama it upset the racists so badly they had a great big meltdown about it
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