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YouTube’s Loaded With EV Disinformation::When it comes to articles on a website like CleanTechnica, there are two kinds of articles. First, there are the ... [continued]

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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Just like Toyoda likes it. Him and his lemmings were parroting how bad sales were for their garbage EVs.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (28 children)

Some of the criticism is perfectly valid, frankly. I'm hyped for EVs but there's a lot of work to be done before they're really competitive. Glossing over glaring issues isn't doing anyone any favors.

Aging wheels did a great video on the charging station problem. He drove a Polaris and a Tesla on the same route and demonstrated really well how unreliable charging stations are, unless you have a Tesla. This guy loves electric cars and has been reluctant to actually recommend any.

That problem is going to be addressed as American manufacturers adopt Tesla as a standard, but that won't happen for two model years at least.

And in the long run, they won't address climate change in any meaningful way either. We've just exchanged one resource disaster for another, and there's far less rare earth minerals than there is oil. And we'll still need oil. The only way we're doing that is by massively overhauling every city and going away from any individualized transportation larger than a bike.

[–] vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He chose a fairly slow charging CCS car vs a Tesla. That video was super slanted.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Half the stations he stopped at with the polestar didn't work properly. That's not slant, it's bad stations.

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Something I don't think is really talked about in tandem but should be is the "tech" side of things. There's a massive race to go as proprietary as possible none of this crap is easily serviceable by people. The tech that they put in most of these cars is cheap garbage. I don't want some tablet with what is probably a fork of Android controlling my vehicle. First I know support for it is going to go out the window and I don't want to have to think about software security for my damn car.

Then you have these companies that are putting features that are in the car behind subscriptions because the car can now support subscription model. I don't want always online DRM for the DLC for my goddamn car.

[–] Rookeh@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Unlike oil, rare earth minerals can be recycled to a degree. What is today your car battery may end up in 10+ years as someone's house battery, or a power bank or other low-load energy store. The raw materials can eventually be recovered to an extent as well.

A resource disaster is inevitable either way as nobody wants to give up the convenience that we have become accustomed to. Encouraging affluent economies to adopt EVs is pure damage limitation at this point, our biosphere is already fucked from over a century of waste emissions, the least we can do is try and find solutions that don't involve burning fossilized plant matter for every car journey.

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