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I have a question regarding social media platforms such as Facebook, Instagram, and other popular platforms.

We all know that companies like Meta sell and constantly track our lives, but are there other solutions if one runs associations or businesses through these platforms? Meta's platforms have the most users for the most part, and it is easier to advertise through their platforms.

Our gaming association has recently switched from X to Mastodon, but not everyone has registered on Mastodon yet.

What are your tips for running associations and businesses more securely?

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[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have some small amount of experience with this, but based on the little I know, here's what I can say. First question is what is your goal? To get customers, or to create a community? Below is general advice but it's hard to say just talking about it in the abstract.

If you want a community, I would probably advise to just treat it as one more channel, have separate pages in Meta / X / Fediverse / Pinterest or whatever as separate communities, since in a lot of cases there won't be overlap between them. I wouldn't recommend abandoning your existing Meta or X pages to set up a Fediverse page instead, although making a contingency plan for the slow motion demise of Meta as a platform for the long term seems like a good idea.

If you want to drive sales, then for me Google Ads always worked better than buying advertising on Meta or X or etc anyway. Have you measured conversion numbers from Meta? They make it easy to spend money definitely, but I always found the ROI in terms of pure paid sales to be pretty bad from them.

[–] Fox@feddit.nu 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your reply. My goal is actually a combination, as our association organizes gaming conventions and we need customers, but at the same time, the main focus before the event is to have a community.

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Hm, yeah, I would just start up a Mastodon page in parallel with the Meta page. Pick the right "home" server to join; that's critically important for Mastodon in a way that it's not for Meta. Put in charge of the page someone who's genuinely excited about participating in Mastodon, and would be engaged with the gaming community there whether or not they were in charge of the page. I don't think I would recommend spending anything on ad promotion of the Mastodon page, but like I say I'm not convinced of the utility of spending money on Meta promotion either. YMMV

Anyway like I say my level of knowledge about it is pretty minimal but I'm happy to talk more in depth on details of my experience also if you like.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What is your question exactly? How to do promotion on privacy focussed platforms? How to reach people still on ad-based platforms?

[–] Fox@feddit.nu 1 points 11 months ago

The question was actually directed as two questions, but the main question is: are there platforms that are similar to Facebook with fediverse?

I was just unclear. Hehe.

[–] auf@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

private ≠ secure

I recommend you to do promo on famous social media platforms or no promotion at all.

[–] otl@lemmy.srcbeat.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Relevant article: Tailscale have an account on hachyderm.io https://tailscale.com/blog/2022-11-16-fediverse/

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Thanks!

Without knowing any information about this, the hachyderm instance is one which would host such a thing. They're tech focused, and well organised with a co-op umbrella organisation running the instance that has pretty clear rules and ideas around how incorporated entities can engage and join it. So it'll be interesting to see where this goes.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Unless you can get the majority of your customer base on decentralized social media platforms, you’ll have to live with having to maintain a presence on both sides. Now if you’re asking how to run your business more securely on centralized platforms, general advice would be:

  • Use a separate account to manage your business page. Don’t use your personal account or email.
  • Logon to your business account on a desktop browser with uBO in a container tab. Know that you will be limited on some features (i.e. no reels/shorts on desktop).
[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You can only do so much to secure your account. Everything else is in the hands of the developers. I’m not really understanding.

Can you specifically say what your end goal is and what you want to avoid?

You mention privacy concerns, then population problems, but then ask about security - just looking for something more concrete ig would help me help you

[–] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Maybe this thread is also interesting

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/4809117