At some point, he deserves a lifetime achievement award from the academy.
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I AM MOTHERFUCKING ACCEPTING THIS MOTHERFUCKING OSCAR!
For what, appearing in a bunch of films as himself?
like 3 of them
I love SLJ, but what a (public) temper-tantrum. I realize actors often have unique personalities and that he's earned a lot of his success... But he's also operating at some of the highest levels of privilege, wealth, fame, and adoration. And that's not enough for him...?
A lot of actors think they have been snubbed by the Academy (some rightly so). But to publicly blame your directors and editors comes across as very whiney and is unprofessional. If he wants control over how something turns out, he should direct something, but currently that's not his job.
Ironically, it looks like this article has been edited to make seem like SLJ is angry, but he understands the decision:
But, he said, “That s— is not in the movie! And I know why it’s not. Because it wasn’t my movie, and they weren’t trying to make me a star.”
Tone is important, so maybe he was frothing at the mouth when he said it, but I read that as him disliking the decision but understanding it.
In this case, I think that scene with the wallet really isn't helping his public image
But he’s also operating at some of the highest levels of privilege, wealth, fame, and adoration. And that’s not enough for him…?
He's talking about the Academy Awards. You know, little gold statues for being famous enough at playing make believe to be noticed, and and good enough at it to be considered as one of the best of the well known.
If there's anything the rich, privileged actors can publicly whinge about, it's probably this.
?? My man. Would you not want the recognition for your work that you deserve?
deserve
Yes, that's a good way to put it. He basically thinks he deserves an award, and the many people who vote for them do not. They could be wrong, they could be biased, there could have been a lot of performances that just barely surpassed him that year, etc etc. But he's not entitled to an award, no one is! And again, I would argue he has been recognized for his work in many ways.
If you disagree, that's fine, but you shouldn't use straw-man arguments. I had several points in my comment and "he shouldn't want to be recognized" was not one of them.
Nothing in this article suggests he thinks he deserved the award. What he thinks he deserved was to have his work showcased so that he could be considered, and that's entirely reasonable.
He's saying that excessive editing has dulled down his work. That's his complaint.
Laughing and pointing at the guy who expects sunshine and rainbows from Samuel L Jackson :D
That's a pretty big departure. Changes a lot of the context by axing the scenes where he helps the daughter understand what he's done.
He should have motherfucking won for motherfucking Pulp Fiction. 💼
Editing is so impactful on the final, delivered performance that I’m surprised I’ve never heard something like this before.
One of the reasons that editing is not acknowledged for its pivotal role in the final film is that - in the past, at least - its a role largely done by women.
Didn't George Lucas's wife get an Oscar for editing Star Wars?
We should probably refer to her as Marcia Lucas, but yes, I believe she did.
Speaking of women's work being under-valued, and the Oscars, there's no award for Casting (also mainly done by women), and yet audiences are more likely to notice if someone's being mis-cast, rather than they are badly-directed.
Thank you, I can never remember her name. Costume design is only recently starting to become valued as well I feel. Are there other areas where women struggle to be recognized in the industry? I assume stunt work is a big one.
Casting and Editing are the biggies, I think. Obviously there's also the struggle for women to get the roles that are valued (e.g. Director)
What about careers on the fringes like speech coaches for actors and things like that. Do we ever actually praise those people? Wouldn't be surprised to learn that was majority women too.
There's likely something in that. The reason why Rebecca Ferguson has a wonky accent in SILO (to use a recent example) isn't Ferguson's fault, it's the producers not investing the time or money in getting her coached.
That’s surprising, since it’s such an important part of the creative work. I would guess that it was relegated to women and undervalued because it probably involved a great deal of manual work back in the day - splicing film and so on. I hope we’re talking about a long time ago, anyway. It’s certainly a recognized role now. The only film editor I know in the business (at Pixar) is a woman, fwiw.
involved a great deal of manual work back in the day - splicing film and so on
I think that's the reason, yeah
Was it really? I had no idea..
A Time To Kill was intense, I'll give him this one, if they'd given him more screentime he could have easily earned an oscar with that role.
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