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[–] reallynotnick@lemmy.world 181 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Yep. They really doubled down on privacy/security and it’s pretty admirable. The President doesn’t use an android or a blackberry for a reason. (Well, two in the case of blackberry. Security and existing). If only there were no other problematic areas of Apple’s business (manufacturing, wages, environmental impact).

[–] Areopagus@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't wait for them to put their money where their mouth is and do the same in China and other large population countries that demand the same thing 😂

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

They use WeChat anyway.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is one thing Apple has been pretty firm on. You can’t have a secure product and have backdoors. You can try to hide them all you want, but a backdoor will always be a massive security vulnerability.

[–] SGG@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Will, except in China. They opened the backdoor nice and wide for Winnie the Pooh so he could gobble up all the Chinese iCloud data

[–] jmanes@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good on them for standing up for what's right on this.

[–] GatoB@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really. Apple's track record for this kind of thing is pretty great. See also, the San Bernardino case.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple doesn't like be told what to do.

If privacy is in the way of their desires then Apple will invade their users privacy because no they don't stand for privacy.

[–] jmanes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seems like you're spewing FUD to me, mostly. I agree Apple is far from perfect, but they literally introduced an e2e methodology for much of iCloud data recently.

Besides, even if they are only doing this out of selfish desire, it's still a good thing for the consumers in this case.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe proprietary software gives unjust power over users and so Apple making a good change (even if it were sincere benevolence) is still in that content.

[–] jmanes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a reach beyond reaches.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I happened to view your profile and see recent comments. I see a post saying you choose to switch from Plex (proprietary) to Jellyfin (open source) due to their businesses decisions. Is that's because you anticipate changes to the software you will dislike? This seems very close to what I just tried to say.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has everyone forgotten about Apples plan to scan every single photo uploaded to iCloud for harmful content? They can and will destroy any semblance of privacy for the right reason.

[–] itsJoelle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well, scan hashes -- they didn't look at images directly until it was flagged. That being said, it'd require trusts from users they aren't looking at everything directly.

[–] cufta22@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Only apple is allowed to spy on it's users

[–] Sephtis-6@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good, why should they comprise security. It makes it easier for everyone to hack, not just the government

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It could already be completely hackable and no one would know because the security in this case is solely based on apples word with zero auditing. If there were a true financial incentive there is no doubt they would compromise "security".

21st century govenrments: Hey guys, why don't we ban math?

Yeah good luck with that. Gotta give it to Apple on this one, though I'm not a huge fan of their business practices otherwise.

[–] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we get iMessage on Android in the States tho?

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)

We have iMessage at home (it's Signal and nobody else uses it)

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t doubt it. Apple would probably just ship a new app called “Texts” or something that only does traditional cell carrier text messages, and then refer customers to third party solutions for video conferencing. A nice explanatory web page on Apple’s website to point customers in the region towards would be the cherry on top.

[–] B0rax@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

No need for a new app. The app is already called „messages“. Just remove iMessage support and it works „fine“

[–] laminam@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

We will have to wait and see what if they actually follow through.

They are big ones for making grand statements and then quietly backtracking later on once all the press isn't paying attention anymore.

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Hope this comes to fruition. Maybe it would help people realize how dumb it is to be locked into these services in the first place.

[–] Artemis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Mine is mainly a YouTube and Books machine. During the NFL season I’ll use it to keep tabs on games that my team isn’t in, or pull up NFL Redzone as a PiP kind of setup from the couch.

Sometimes I use it for recipes too

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