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[–] logflume@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the sooner carnists just admit that they're evil and morally bankrupt for eating meat, the sooner these struggle sessions will finally endi should know i'm one of them

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

spoiler

i should know i'm one of them

Can I offer you a cool-bean in this trying time?

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[–] Melina@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago
[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't mean to start a struggle session, I just thought the meme was extra dank.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

You did good, shitposter-in-training

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[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huge numbers of Hexbears pretending they're not reddit-logo while simultaneously doing the exact same "Oh you're vegan? I'm going to eat extra meat because of you" shit

[–] Abraxiel@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the huge number in this case, two or three?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some power posters, which can boost the signal.

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[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The nuclear hellfire could have been prevented if hexbearian ~~omnivores~~ carnists had just watched the minion. Change my mind.

spoilerim-vegan

[–] LiberalScratcher@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ll never watch those little yellow bastards

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

This is a minion-steve free household

[–] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My main issue with vegan struggle sessions is that it affirms my hesitance to associate with other vegans because they come in incredible hostile and aggressive to literally any space upending anything to make a point in such a way that makes everyone roll their eyes at them. Not because veganism isn't the morally correct position to take (it is) but because online vegans haven't found a way to overcome their inability to speak to others like they're on the comment section of a Youtube video and end up invalidating any point they could've made by acting like a fool.

Like I'm not going to defend someone who equates animal liberation on the same level with black civil rights or palestinian liberation at a meeting that is comprised almost entirely of black/hispanic/palestinian people talking about the links between palestinian and black liberation like someone I know IRL tried to do and go shouted down (rightfully I might add) when the PoC in the meeting either looked uncomfortable or offended since what it sounded like they were being equated to animals with all the racial baggage that it carries.

Learn to talk to other people and maybe people may be more amendable. Bullying only works on people just as online as you are, and that doesn't encompass as many people as you think, that's why people tend to reject you and your messaging based not on its content but on its delivery.

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pure civility brain. You know better than this. We all know better than this on every other topic.

[–] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

We all know better than this on every other topic.

Not if you're telling black and brown people that saving chickens from the slaughterhouse is on the same level as their fear of being shot on the street, as in the example I used.

[–] Lols@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

maybe i dont know how 'convincing people' works but my gut reaction to 'should we let civility get in the way of actually doing something' was not becoming as unapproachable, unattractive and generally repugnant as possible

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Standing up for the oppressed and speaking out against their oppressors is "generally repugnant" smuglord

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Like I'm not going to defend someone who equates animal liberation on the same level with black civil rights or palestinian liberation at a meeting that is comprised almost entirely of black/hispanic/palestinian people talking about the links between palestinian and black liberation like someone I know IRL tried to do and go shouted down (rightfully I might add) when the PoC in the meeting either looked uncomfortable or offended since what it sounded like they were being equated to animals with all the racial baggage that it carries.

Do you think this kind of behavior is ok?

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think being an asshole and then making fun of people who call you an asshole makes you an asshole

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On one side: being an asshole

On the other side: genocide on a literally unimaginable scale

Yeah I'm just really concerned about civility smuglord

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

your last few comments:

smuglord im just going to spam this emote and create a silly strawman of their argument which totally makes me right, which ironically makes me the exact person the emoji was made to critique but im not going to think about that. That'll show 'em

[–] somename@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While veganism is good and superior to eating meat, I agree, like, this is not a great way to spread the practice and convince others of that. Like, even among vegans it's not a consensus that animal lives and human lives are 1:1, in all contexts. So going off that logical assumption and then straight to declaring animal processing the worst genocide of all time, worse than the Holocaust, is going to throw people off lol.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

no but its also the slave trade and if you dislike that comparison you're reactionary scum

time is a fat circle

dummy thicc

[–] beautiful_boater@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there a current struggle session I am unaware of?

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

trolly problem meme in local active

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago
[–] Venus@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The struggle sessions will keep going until the reactionaries get banned. Imagine how shitty this site would be if racists or transphobes just got their comments removed and were allowed to keep on posting the same shit for days and weeks and months on end.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

yes people who eat meat are basically the same as being racist or transphobic?????

have fun in your little purity crusade

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You've had your comments removed for going on ridiculous anti-vegan tirades like 5 times in completely separate threads now separated by months

Wtf does it take for you to get banned???

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

I'm not being anti vegan? I'm not doing that am I? I have not said anything anti vegan. I just dislike the comparison of 'carnists' to people who want to kill me for being a woman. Don't try to take me out of context. I am disagreeing with you not veganism.

[–] CatoPosting@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not respecting the sentience of other species is quite literally the same.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i love how people who hate my existence are just as evil as someone who doesn't care about eating a McRib

meat eating is bad but I don't think im going to compare them to people who don't want me to exist as I truly am

[–] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine how shitty this site would be if racists or transphobes just got their comments removed and were allowed to keep on posting the same shit for days and weeks and months on end.

remembers the racist/imperialist comments vegans made in the first struggle session

Yeah that'd be terrible.

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

hi I'm here to whine about some shit that happened 3 years ago when the site was run by completely different people, I'm sure this is relevant to a user who's been here for 3 months and is posting about an ongoing conflict

Wtf is your problem

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The struggle sessions will keep going until the reactionaries get banned.

One did, and this time it was someone I never liked the takes of to begin with. rip-bozo

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm waiting for someone to notice that bears eat fish and rally to remove the Hexbear name and logos and change it to Hexbean

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

I'm 99.9% sure you're doing a bit, but just in case you aren't, vegans are not opposed to animals eating animals.

[–] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Really makes you think

[–] Bassword@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

humans are animals galaxy-brain

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[–] hotwarioinyourarea@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Oh fuck why didn't we call the Vegan community Hexbean

bird-screm-2

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[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You mean a notoriously polarised topic that has had inflamed arguments for decades preceding the internet hasn't been solved in three years on Hexbear??? Left unity failing dean-frown

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

A tale as old as time

A song as old as rhyme

Trolley and the Bean

[–] regularassbitch@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

"man, everyone out there is pissing in a big trough," i say, while pissing in a separate toilet

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

you devious bastard you just moved the struggle session

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did anyone prominent get banned this time or is it just one of those rehashed struggle sessions where nothing substantial happens? So far, I've seen this person get banned, but they got banned for being some antinatalist freak in the middle of some vegan struggle session, so they don't count.

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