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Wow. Front page of huffpost.com right now. Interesting...
Huffman totally doesn't get that the conflict isn't about Reddit wanting to charge for API access. That in and of itself is fine.
It's how they're going about it, starting with "We're going to start charging you in a month, and just five months ago we said we weren't going to be charging anything for the foreseeable future," followed immediately by Huffman being a human-shaped turd very loudly at every chance.
Even if they just came out and said "we don't want third party apps like Apollo anymore, we want one Reddit experience" it would have been at least honest. There would still be an uproar but not ugly like this.
Instead everything Steve has done has been duplicitous and in bad faith. Then he drops that memo and pokes the bear, does a couple rounds of interviews going "I'm so strong, mods are spoiled, I'm like daddy Elon, make me rich".
I genuinely don't know what he thinks he's going to get out of this. He should have just sat this out quietly and let subs go dark until they got bored and alternatives formed and the system fixed itself.
Side note: I've been disgusted watching redditors lick his boots and hate on the mods. In 13 years of using Reddit I only ever got banned from /r/conservative, so I don't get all these people complaining about power tripping mods. That got me to delete all my accounts.
This, combined with some other news stories explicitly mentioning Lemmy as an alternative, is a very positive thing for the community here.
"Without Reddit’s volunteer moderators, the site could likely see less helpful content, and more spam, misinformation and hate.”
Enjoy the multiple requests for user data and histories regarding what I am sure will be an 80% spread of r/TheDonald. Like the various inquisitions of Twitter, so too will your lives be mired in government investigations. Have fun moderating 100k subs with no mods, and enjoy paddling up shit creek with your dumpster fire yacht.
“We can’t subsidize other people’s businesses,” Huffman said. “We didn’t ban third-party apps — we said, ‘You need to cover your costs.’”
Too bad the article author does not put this into context with counter-arguments. "Your cost" saying that's the cost is a wild claim. They supposedly set an arbitrary, high price.
“I think every business has a duty to become profitable eventually — for our employees shareholders, for our investors shareholders and, one day as a public company, hopefully our user shareholders as well,” said Huffman, who co-founded the site in 2005.
I'm not so sure every shareholder is necessarily looking primarily or only at money return. It's equally probable a shareholder may be a shareholder to support the platform - even if it operates at a loss - because it's a good or important platform.
In my opinion even if he changes his mind and tries to backtrack, the damage is done, for sure.
“Protest and dissent is important,” Huffman said. “The problem with this one is it’s not going to change anything because we made a business decision that we’re not negotiating on.”
"we're not giving in" said everyone ever that gave in to protest later
We will see. It can still go many ways. With how big Reddit is they can certainly push through. We will see what impact that will have in the long term.
The full interview published at The Verge gave a pretty good insight into Huffman’s inability to manage the situation. Comparing the way he talks about third parties and his “recollection” regarding Apollo to what the Apollo creator wrote, it’s completely worlds apart. It feels as if Huffman is in smash mode and piling on the lies.
(https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762868/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-interview)
I love that he clearly thinks Reddit is too big to fail, which isn't true of anything, no matter how popular...
His fat mouth got me to download a Chrome extension for the sole purpose of excluding Reddit from my search results. Even Pinterest didn't get me that far.
I feel like I should thank him. Nothing has compelled me to break my reddit addiction more than this. RIF is still installed, many of my major subs are back, I could open it at any time. I've reflexively opened the app so many times in the last week just out of pure habit.
But every single time I open it on reflex, I immediately close it. I have not felt the compulsion to check Reddit for a week now and that's the first time that's happened in...I honestly can't remember. Maybe a decade.
30% of it is because I know the type of comments that are getting posted now, the type of crowd that is making up a good part of the active user base at the moment, and I have no real interest to read all of their corporate boot licking. But the other 70% is solidly because of spez. Spite is a compelling motivator to break a habit.
