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[–] pianoplant@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Kagi at the moment. Just feels right to pay for incredibly useful services with money instead of privacy

[–] snap@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I totally agree, although information itself should be freely accessible for everyone. Nice topic for a discussion though!

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well it still is, the web is open to be indexed.
Now paying for a service which has its own index sounds fine, but I personally don't trust this model if the code isn't open source as well (which kind of ties back into freely accessible information), though I can see it being hard to monetize if anyone can host their own version, unless the hardware infrastructure needed was really expensive

[–] hatchet@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Currently trying out Kagi, still on the fence. Boy am I blowing through the trial searches though.

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[–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Both: I use SearXNG!

[–] magmaus3@szmer.info 17 points 1 year ago
[–] Vej@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Ever since Snowden I switched to DDG. You start to get used to one search engine vs the other. So after a bit DDG was just superior to me.

[–] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Albin9326@kerala.party 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadly yes... But lesser and lesser

[–] PsychologicalCannabis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How so? Can you please provide something

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[–] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago

They have their fair share of questionable practices. Most prominent was being in the bed with Micro$$oft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo#Controversies

I think they messed with search result ranking as well.

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[–] DNOS@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] dukethorion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
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[–] AWildMimicAppears@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Mullvad Leta, although i'm pondering about getting kagi

[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Albin9326@kerala.party 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sneaky_b45tard@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PeachMan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does that actually enhance privacy at all? Or is it basically the same as using Google?

[–] KirbySSM@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Isn't it worse? Now two search engines know what you are searching for

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Somewhat, because you’re proxying your searches through ddg, just like with startpage.

Edit: Apparently I'm mistaken, you are accessing google directly with DDG, unlike with startpage where your query goes through them first. I'm a startpage user so I wasn't really aware of how DDG does their bangs.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn't like Startpage at all. You are still accessing Google from your PC and IP.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't know that. Thanks for correcting me, I'll update my comment.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

No problem! Basically using any bang on DDG goes to that actual webpage, so if you need Google, it's better to use !s than !g.

[–] Gnorv@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

MetaGer for me, run by a non profit and you can choose to pay for search results to be ad-free and get more search options.

[–] krimson@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

DDG. I used Searxng selfhosted for a while but it was a bit too slow with its results.

[–] eruchitanda@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[–] Dezvous@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Ddg and Kagi

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Is there a lawsuit?

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

SearX, Whoogle, sometimes Startpage and Brave

[–] HowMany@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The duck, Chuck, because it doesn't suck.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Their updated privacy policy keeps a lot of data and shares with bing. Not good.

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