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Leftists: This war is spilling unnecessary human blood for gas and oil 
Libs: This war is spilling unnecessary human blood for gas and oil 
Liberals stop impressing me with your barbarism challenge level IMPOSSIBLE
We don't have to pay the medical costs for all the Ukrainians who get shot or blown up! 
Absolute ghouls
The US paying to rebuild Ukraine and covering medical care for Ukrainian veterans and civilians is the one thing that could really shake my idea that the US is the bad guy in this war. I doubt the US is willing to pay the 100s of billions over decades that would take.
no way is that going to happen after the war everyone is going to be scrambling to loot ukraine to get back the money they lent them
So among themselves, libs will admit to this being a proxy war? Cause when they argue with us they act like that is a wild accusation.
There was a comment further down that said "don't call it a proxy war, it's not" but didn't provide any reason lmao
Well they love to jack off about hard men making hard decisions while hard, kind of ruins the whole fantasy if they set the whole thing up instead of having to react with steely stoicism to events outside their control
This is great for everyone! You know, except the Ukrainians getting torn in half by shells,
man what the actual fuck is the deal with those guys
they invested in raytheon in feb 2022
 "Maybe Ukrainians shouldn't keep dying in this war when the west has no intention of accepting them into NATO"
 "This proxy war is a great return on investment because we don't have to care for any of the Ukrainian veterans. Got a blown off leg? Slava Ukraini and get back in the front line, patriot!"
Anyway, something about Soviets and Russians throwing waves of soldiers and elderly people to get slaughtered to win an inch or something
"Formerly your biggest advesary"
Like yeah if you spend decades scaring yourself with ghost stories I guess the result seems impressive for spending over a hundred billion dollars. This is like the bear patrol episode of the simpsons.
"They also have the ability to sever Europe's need for Russian energy"
How's that working out so far?
The VA comment is . Omg literally just mask off "it's not our boys dying"
if you think about it, the more deadly a war is, the better, since it leaves fewer useless eaters behind!
"Long-term most of the funding actually goes to the VA"
Dumb opinions about a heavily propagandize war an ocean away is one thing.
But this? this is the kind of delusion that calls everything else you say into question
People aay the strangest things to justify our military spending.
I remember once someone responded to the budget increase by saying that "they need to pay the troops, their was a raise for them in the budget." Do they believe even 1 of those 800+ billions annually goes to paying da troops? A lot of military families are on SNAP, they pay them shit. You could give them a raise and still not scratch the defense budget
Oh, you think the war is bad? Well, let me load up my actuarial tables to prove how this war turns a profit!
They defederated with us pre-emptively because they knew we had the posting tenacity to possibly shake up their reddit-brain circle jerk
It's fascinating to see these people come to something of an understanding, albeit superficial, of some of the most obvious realist motives and calculations behind the US's essential involvement in Ukraine as if they were stumbling onto a revelation, which should have been not only obvious before it even began (the US's foreign policy in this regard hasn't changed in 30 years) but should have made obvious how incomparably dangerous the US is, only for them to then say: "actually this is smart and good, I love paying top $$$ to impoverish Slavs and Chinese people".
Yes, ladies and gentlemen and enbies of the war crimes tribunal, these posts right here.
Pit?
Pit.
Pit!
It's unanimous, throw them in the pit!
it is actually bad to kill russians on account of them being people. Supporting ukraine just to kill russians is in fact not good
Human lives are just capital to them.
Actually sickening.
I mean whatever way you slice it, that's evil shit. Right?
It never stops being hilarious watching all these suburban masturbators roleplay as either oil excecs or the command staff of the pentagon
100% these minivan driving dipshits have suffered a financial loss from inflation and they still talk like they have a career stake in the warmaking of the state
To say nothing of the psychopathic disregard of the lives of millions of Ukrainians
I can already tell the second comment is an America worshipper from somewhere in Europe salivating at being a slave to the US. He would probably let the US nuke his own home and cry that they didn't obliterate everything.
I always picture these types of people to be like that X-men character, toad. A sniveling little gremlin that looks up at its master with sad, pleading eyes with hope that it too will be seen as an equal. Only for the US to kick them off a helicopter when they're no longer useful.
Children's understanding of globalised economies.
Copy paste State Dept talking points. I swear I've seen this same exchange over and over on 
The whole "yeah, but..." damned the torpedoes Cold War Tom Clancy fever dream shit that brings nothing good for anyone but Cold War fanatc's bruised egos that mainland Russia hasn't balkanized for their stink tank vulture's masters.
"A bunch of disaffected abandoned right wing soldiers we trained and funded and who hate us almost as much as the enemy we pointed them at has never caused us any issues down the line"
Proxy war? Smh it's all about VPN wars these days.
That place is just another Reddit.
Also:  Russian interference Russian interference Russian interference Russia is paying everyone
Pretty sure the least costly way to cripple your foe while hardly lifting a finger is to grab your popcorn and watch as they try to occupy The Graveyard of Empires for 20 years.
I've basically ignored Lemmy. I've spent a grand total of less than ~4 minutes here. Over time I just came to ~4 threads, I sorted by "top", and I felt like I was at Reddit so I immediately left. Today was no exception...
If Ukraine does not win, WW3 is the inevitable outcome in the next 10 years.
If we start from the premise of "conflict with Russia and China are inevitable", isn't a much smaller and relatively safe war where one of the countries gets to test out the issues with its logistics and mobilizations efforts not a good thing. Like if you're a NATO think tank guy wouldn't you rather that Russia discovers its military has corruption issues to the point of incompetence during WWIII rather than a precursor war that lets it sort that out?
The Afghans gave us a much better deal. Operation cyclone never broke a billion.
I mean yeah they are correct but why are they phrasing it as a good thing
Are you believing the morning papers?
War is coming back in style
There's generals here, advisers there
And the Russians nibbling everywhere
The chessboard's filling up with red
We make more profits when we blow off their heads
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Economy is looking bad
Let's start another war (when ya get drafted)
Fan the fires of racist hatred
We want total war (when ya get drafted)
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Drooling fingers, panic buttons
Playing with missiles like they're toys
There's easy money, easy jobs
Especially when you build the bombs
That blow big cities off the map
Just guess who profits when we build 'em back up
It never stops being cool seeing comrades from other instances coming to our little dunk tank.
