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Antiwork/Work Reform

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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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Date Created: June 15, 2023

Date Updated: July 17, 2023

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[–] ruck_feddit@lemmy.ml 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Both of Taylor Swift's parents are hedge fund managers. One of the most successful popstars of the current generation not only had access and training from a young age, she was able to fully commit to her passion. There is something to be said for natural talent and beauty, but how many other equally talented and beautiful people are out there just grinding at a dead end job instead of making music or art?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops

[–] flipht@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

This has been my reaction when anti abortion activists say things like, "What if Einstein was aborted??"

Cool hypothetical. We know for a fact that millions of people waste their potential because of the color of their skin, their caste, their access to education, preventable disease, etc.

[–] ruck_feddit@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Far, far too many never got the chance

[–] fuckyou_m8@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

wtf, that's a great quote

[–] Entropy1367@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Nepotism at it's finest, must be fuckin nice.

[–] JoumanaKayrouz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re absolutely correct, however if I were that rich I would just have a small mansion with a lazy river and pina coloda machine. That’s my passion

[–] ruck_feddit@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would follow you into the mists of Avalon, if that is what you mean.

[–] JoumanaKayrouz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ruck_feddit@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's a Step Brothers quote when they become best friends

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 44 points 1 year ago

I'm not jealous of them, I'm fucking pissed at them "earning" the entirety of my work life (35+ years) in a single month. The rich are fucking parasites

[–] CreeperODeath@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly I don't even need to be rich rich

I just want to be comfortable

[–] JoumanaKayrouz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep dreaming, peasant!

I remember when I graduated college in ‘09 and employers had that “You’re lucky to have a job!” attitude while they paid me $10 an hour. At that time, however, I was lucky to have a job.

I’ve never been really comfortable since.

[–] MostlyBirds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I’ve never been really comfortable since.

Welcome to the 2/3 majority!

[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

right?

if I somehow amassed a billion dollars it wouldn't last long. I'd figure out the bare minimum I needed to live comfortably without the need to work, maybe double it for safety, and then start improving the lives of people who are or have been important to me, or those I judge most in need (or perhaps who would benefit the most, if different)

[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that's the point: no one's got any time or energy to do anything but serve

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have an image ready on the topic that I will be posting tomorrow or in 2 days:

Edit: I decided to post it now because I need traction on this sub to find people that will be willing to be mods here.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm recruiting mods, check pinned post for more info!

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Oh Antiwork! I'm a fairly fresh Lemming with strong opinions against work and some time on my hands, lemme see that pinned post.

[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

eh-fucking-menn

[–] linoor@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They usually work a lot anyway, not because they have to, but because they are greedy.

[–] DrDooom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Somehow I feel like their definition of "work" and mine are vastly different.

[–] PortableHotpocket@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a bit of a misconception. Wealthy people don't get that way by not working, and they tend not to stay that way if they don't continue to do so. The difference is that the work they do isn't the physically laborious kind.

Wealthy people often work 60+ hours a week. They are constantly traveling, making deals, finding new investments, researching, etc. That's how they get wealthy in the first place, and that attitude doesn't go away just because they hit a certain level of income. They are self-motivated to keep pushing.

The issue is not so much that wealthy people don't do any work as it is that the value of hard labor has been devalued, while the benefits of labor have been siphoned to the top 1% for too long. Those benefits have to be redistributed throughout the system in a way that continues to encourage necessary production, without discouraging high performance individuals from creating value through high level trade and investment. Finding a better balance while taking that all into consideration is not an easy task.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

You're talking about wealthy/economically comfortable people, not rich people. There's a HUGE difference.

Most actually RICH people are born into money and might increase their fortune if they want to, but don't have to.

Over a certain threshold, a rich person has the option to not work at all or do essentially risk-free business because above a certain wealth, companies might go under, but it won't cost a billionaire anything, certainly nothing that can't be covered by an easy to obtain and usually low to no interest loan.

The "high performance individuals" that create a lot of wealth for themselves and others are the wealthy/comfortable ones who can't stop working without, at least, having to cut back on luxuries.

They're not the ones the laws benefit the most, though, the RICH are. Their income is mainly in undertaxed capital gains and the vast majority of their "high level trade and investments" don't benefit anyone but themselves and other rich people, taking their wealth out of the general economy and thus making them a net expense for the general population.

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