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A first-of-its kind law requiring a minimum wage for app-based delivery workers will take effect after a judge rejected the companies' bid to block it.

Uber, DoorDash and Grubhub won’t be able to get out of paying minimum wage to their New York City delivery workers after all, following a judge’s decision to reject their bid to skirt the city’s new law. The upcoming law, which is still pending due to the companies’ ongoing lawsuit, aims to secure better wage protections for app-based workers. Once the suit settles, third-party delivery providers will have to pay delivery workers a minimum wage of roughly $18 per hour before tips, and keep up with the yearly increases, Reuters reports.

The amount, which will increase April 1 of every year, is slightly higher than the city’s standard minimum wage, taking into account the additional expenses gig workers face. At the moment, food delivery workers make an estimated $7-$11 per hour on average.

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[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Remember when minimum wage driver work went up for a vote in California under prop 22 and we still voted against it? Im always so mad every election cycle i feel like everyone is a complete moron working against themselves

[–] hayes_@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

Copying my own comment from another thread:

In those workers’ defense, the delivery companies spent hundreds of millions of dollars on a disinformation campaign to trick the public into thinking that voting for 22 was in their own interest.

It’s absurd that it was on the ballot in the first place.

[–] Cheesus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately corporate advertising works when it comes to elections

[–] honey_im_meat_grinding@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Is it fair to call people stupid when they're facing a literal corporate propaganda campaign? I'd sooner reach for "corporations are evil" than "people are stupid" in that case. Remember how people used to treat you if you were against the Iraq war? And today, we know that thing was unnecessary and awful. Sometimes rich people just manage to convince us of things that aren't true.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

You dont have to always be the victim, dont strip away your obligation for due diligence just because some corporation made a nice commercial.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Guess who's about to keep all employee tips... A minimum wage is a great first step, but stricter regulation will be needed to curtail the absurd levels of greed from these megacorps.

[–] weedazz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Guess who's going to stop playing 20% for tips now that I don't have to subsidize a subhuman wage?

[–] Ibex0@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] betz24@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Honest question to the lemmy users here, but do people believe the solution to the affordability crisis in the US is to raise the salaries of every single job out there (menial or skilled)?

Looking to have a real conversation and not just a 'fuck capitalism' one (and yes, I know it sucks, but I'm looking for a real conversation).

[–] FancyManacles@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, the optimal solution is to have a society where all the blood and sweat equity that has been put into the system by workers is finally repaid, and the capitalist leeches of the world are knocked off their thrones. Workers created the abundance that allowed the billionaires of the world to get fat while they let others starve, and only once that misappropriation of resources is ended can we fix the issues that the oligarchs have created.

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[–] weedazz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, wages need to proportionally keep up with the rate of inflation, otherwise you are literally getting paid less to do the same work every year.

[–] betz24@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago

This part I haven't figured out. Seems chicken and egg to me. If we keep raising wages to match inflation, the costs of good measured to match inflation will also go up and we end up with higher inflation right?

[–] Javi_in_4k@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Yes. Higher wages actually is the solution.

[–] missveeronica@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I dont think raising minimum wage will help. It just forces the service to raise the cost of the delivery fee. I don't know the answer to the affordability crisis, but it ain't that!

I come in peace, because you wanted an honest answer/real conversation. .

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To those who live there: How does $18/hour in NYC compare to $20/hour in California (for the fast food thing recently passed here)? Is that a living wage there?

[–] Artaca@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago

Household income for me and my wife was around $150k and we got priced out of the city. A lot of Dashers take late night trains deep deep outside of the city, or they live with half a dozen other Dashers on alternating schedules, sharing beds.

[–] Rekhyt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not a resident of either but it's worth mentioning that this is NYC not NY state and California probably has suburban and rural areas that are much, much cheaper cost of living than NYC.

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