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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

this meme has some truth in it, in that these six vegetables are all brassica oleracea. but, the factoid in the center of the meme is misleading: brassica oleracea can be many things but (despite brassicaceae being "the mustard and cabbage family") brassica oleracea is not typically called "wild mustard plant".

edit: toned down my refutation; i guess maybe it is sometimes πŸ‘€ but i think not really

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Tagged & linked comment. :)

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] _hovi_@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Always a relevant xkcd, isn't there

[–] Etterra 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Except that it's not the wild mustard plant. It's the wild cabbage plant. Wild mustard is totally different genusv and species.

wild cabbage

wild mustard

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

Srsly. What is this bullshit.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 114 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How? Like... literally how?

I grow kale and it looks nothing like the plant in the OP. It looks like a regular bunch of kale.

Or is this like "all 6 vegetables come from one main vegetable", kind of like how all citrus fruits comes from citron.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

kind of like how all citrus fruits comes from citron.

This is what happened

[–] reattach@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, it's cooler than that! All these vegetables are cultivars of the same species (Brassica oleracea). Citrus trees are different species with common origins.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_oleracea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Citron broke my brain. If you're telling me this is mustard and only mustard, my brain might just die in confusion.

[–] reattach@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Relevant xkcd (my first time posting an image - fingers crossed)

https://xkcd.com/2827/

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago

Just like dog breeds look very distinct, but cranked up to eleven with horrible deformities. Imagine if we continued to breed chihuahuas to have bigger heads and smaller bodies until they are 90% head. Or breed a breed of hound to be smaller with increasingly bigger ears until it's 90% ears. They would still be dogs of the same species because they can procreate together.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Artificial selection!

If you think that’s amazing - look up what bananas looked like before human cultivation. Basically any fruit or vegetable you eat is the product of centuries of humans carefully selecting what seeds to save and plant.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

My wife and I had fried plantains at a Venezuelan restaurant a couple weeks ago. That shit was absolutely divine with beans, rice, meat, and a fried egg on top.

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[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 16 points 1 day ago

πŸ”«πŸŒΌ Always has been.

cabbage, to be more accurate

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)

To all the veggie haters:

Broccoli recipe:

  1. Fry broccoli with paprika and small pieces of meat or tofu in a pan until brown.
  2. Add water and seasonings.
  3. Steam to desired hardness.
  4. Serve with rice or couscous.

Cauliflower recipe:

  1. Make brown butter by heating up butter and adding breadcrumbs to soak it up.
  2. Serve it on enough steamed cauliflower to justify the amount of brown butter you are about to eat.
[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Sprouts do well with Braising, this is roughly how I do them, based on a whim that turned out fantastic.

  1. Halve and clean your sprouts, salt and pepper them
  2. Sear cut side down in oil of your choice. Bacon is the classic but absolutely not required if you want to do it vegan, maybe use some smoked paprika to get the smokey flavour, add aromatics like garlic near the end, it burns easy.
  3. Deglaze with balsamic vinegar, add enough liquid to just barely cover the bottom of the pan, cover and simmer until happy.

I know sprouts are far less bitter than they were when I was a kid, but I legit thought I disliked them. Borrowed a lot from braised cabbage recipes, just with a bit more aggressive browning. The sprouts hold up really well to longer cooking IMO (can't say the same to leeks, braised leeks are great, but not how I did them, turned into a textural nightmare), they're amazing hot or cold.

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[–] don@lemm.ee 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And every one fucking delicious

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)

People have some hate boner against Brussels sprouts, but damn - if you know how to prepare them, they're delicious.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Look, anything pan fried with butter, salt, black pepper, bacon and a little white wine is going to taste great...

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I literally just take them out of the freezer, drizzle a little bit of olive oil (1-3grams), salt, garlic powder and air fry them for 23 minutes at 200 C.

That's it.

Same recipe works with green beans, asparagus, broccoli

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Selective breeding does play a role but also how you prepare them. Just like other brassicae if you cook them for too long they start smelling bad, so you want to use high heat and relatively short cooking times.

For example. My go-to approach is to cut them into halves and pan-fry in lard. High fire. People claim it's delicious.

[–] ajikeshi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

the don't smell bad.. they just smell like cabbage when cooked longer

I mean, things fried in lard do usually come out delicious.

[–] Mozes@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

Right, when I was growing up, always steamed or boiled - absolute trash. Just throw them on a pan under the broiler with some oil and salt/pepper chefs kiss

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I actually prefer to eat them raw. A cup a day before sleeping. They act as sleeping pills for me

You get used to the taste and learn to enjoy it, same as with beer except they are good for you and increase hair density. It’s a real life equivalent of ent water

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sliced in half and deep friedβ€”in case anyone was wondering.

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[–] Thelie@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I've had this discussion before, had the "proper way" of preparing them explained to me and made them according to these instructions. Turns out, I just don't like the taste. Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

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[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Animals turn into crab, plant turn outfrom cabbage

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait, but I put mustard on my broccoli...

[–] grue@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Yo dawg, I heard you like mustard...

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[–] remon@ani.social 3 points 1 day ago

Damn these healthy GMOs!

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is news to me, but I was always kind of onto cauliflower just being albino broccoli, so not too surprised there.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

We eat like 2 plants. One is brassica mentioned above.

The other one is nightshade. In the nightshade family we find tomatos, aubergine, tobacco, peppers, physalis, potatoes and of course the extremely toxic bella-donna (deadly nightshade)

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 7 hours ago

We also eat like two animals, sea insects and variants of dog

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Just a small correction: you missed an "a" in bella-donna (bella donna means "beautiful woman" in Italian)

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[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does this mean I can put mustard on things instead of eating all these vegetables?

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[–] f5xs_bhw0a@beehaw.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

scientific name

uppercase species

not even underlined or italicized

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[–] match@pawb.social 12 points 1 day ago

ancient and medieval europeans went through some shit

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

I have an opinion on all of these foods!

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