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Some Cybertruck Owners Say Their Trucks Are Shedding Body Panels; One Thinks He Knows Why (www.roadandtrack.com)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/542998

"It does suck, because everybody kind of makes fun of the Cybertruck. To the outside person, it's kind of weird, it's ugly, whatever. Once you actually get in it, drive it, you realize it's pretty frickin' cool," he says. "It's kind of been sad, because I've been trying to prove to people that it's a really awesome truck that's not falling apart, and then mine starts to fall apart, so it's just... Yeah, it's kind of unfortunate and sad."

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[–] gencha@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

Teslas have had shit build quality forever. They ripped out so many features from the cockpit and replaced it all with a single shitty display. Elon said it's radical and better, fans sucked it up.

He was a scammer right from the start. He bought the company to ride the green wave and rip off idiots with garbage EVs. Everyone knew his shit cars don't cost much money to build, Chinese EV makers proved it.

He couldn't even turn a profit with his fucking company and had to resort to stock manipulation. People seem to forget what a piece of human garbage Elon was all along.

It's no surprise that garbage truck falls apart. Trade it in for the roadster you fucking idiot!

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"I bought a very expensive piece of shit, and everyone else thinks it's a piece of a shit, but when I try to convince them that it's not a piece of shit... it ends up doing piece of shit things. I just don't get it."

[–] datalowe@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I also really liked this part

"[...]I love Teslas," he says. "I'm just trying to share what's going on to better help the engineers to fix this super fast."

He's just so cute, the way he's keeping his copes up despite everything

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

But it's so frickin cool when you drive it!

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 50 points 2 days ago

Ah, Spring. When the Swasticars shed their winter coats...

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Whatever glue they're using has a different expansion/contraction rate than the stainless steel, and the fairly smooth metal doesn't give much surface area to hold, anyway. So in cold or hot days, you're going to see separation.

And it doesn't help when they don't even glue the right pattern from the factory.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I find this offensive, it can't possibly be true, because Elon knows more than anybody else on this planet about production. He has said so himself!!
And one thing we know for sure, is that you can trust Elon. We will have FSD by 2017, and a manned base on the moon by 2024. And Hyperloop will revolutionize public transportation.

/s

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I spend 100 grand on something, it better not be fucking glued together.

I didn’t even glue my wife’s glasses together when they broke, I soldered them. Because glue sucks for attaching metal to anything.

Could have done bolts on the inside, or fucking rivets, or just welded the edges and it would have been better.

Cheap ass product sold for premium prices.

[–] soul@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The correct glue in the correct amount with the correct pattern against the correct surface will be perfectly fine. That said, they should be bending the edges of the panels around to hold things in place. But I'm sure they're not.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

See that’s 3 things that have to be correct.

VS: Bolt + thread lock

Or: HaHa metal go BZZZZ.

The simpler solution is often the best.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 157 points 2 days ago (12 children)

the trim piece that flew off of his truck is connected to a plastic frame bolted directly to the car; that trim piece, he says, is stuck to the frame with adhesive rather than welded or bolted to anything. That adhesive has seemingly failed in multiple places on his truck, leading to the loosened roofline trim panels.

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 129 points 2 days ago (9 children)

How the hell is that thing legal to sell??

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 123 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I worked at the Tesla plant in Fremont for a bit and most of every car is held together with adhesive. They claim it's super strong and once heated, it's stronger than welding... But, I mean... They are still falling apart and I don't know if that's because the adhesive sucks or if it's because every single day, they had to have someone remind everyone that the glue pattern posted at every station where it's applied isn't just a suggestion, it's an engineering requirement for the structural integrity of the part. People were just slapping the adhesive onto shit in any old way they pleased a lot of the time.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Adhesive bonding can be a good engineering choice, it's used a lot in aerospace, but like any engineering process, it has to be done right. If the thermal coefficient of expansion of the panels is big enough and the adhesive is immovable, the bonds will break. And as you mention, it's a really good idea to put the adhesive where it's supposed to go, otherwise it's not going to work correctly.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it’s stronger than welding

(X) to doubt

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Adhesives can be incredibly strong.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (8 children)

But never a weld.

MEK welds styrene. Cynocrylate forms a mechanical bond. MEK will be stronger in tension, cyno stronger in shear.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, but stronger than welded 304 stainless?

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

they had to have someone remind everyone that the glue pattern posted at every station where it's applied isn't just a suggestion, it's an engineering requirement for the structural integrity of the part. People were just slapping the adhesive onto shit in any old way they pleased a lot of the time.

In other words, the things were being designed by underqualified engineers who didn't understand factors of safety, design for manufacturability, or that precision comes at a cost.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I suspect the real issue is the workers aren't given enough time on the line to do this correctly so they just churn them out to hit the needed metric knowing it will fail after being delivered to the owner.

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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Maybe. Or the production managers weren't maintaining control over the quality of the work.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Essentially every car has a windshield and trim attached only by adhesive, and has for decades. This ought to be a solved problem.

Is that trim piece steel? Maybe something about the material, usually they’re gluing on plastic trim pieces. They’re relying on heated adhesive but it’s a long skinny piece made of a material that conducts heat?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, used properly, adhesive can be stronger than just about any other form of fastening. Properly is the key word. Contaminates, or improperly prepped surface will drastically reduce the effectiveness.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 7 points 2 days ago

Hell, surface coatings to protect against rust are a multi-billion industry and they often require very specific application methods and even a little deviation can fuck up the bond.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 days ago

There's a reason why Musk is paying to dismantle the government.

[–] Palerider@feddit.uk 24 points 2 days ago

It's not over here in the UK. They're not road legal.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There's a reason why the EU won't allow the sale of cybertrucks and it all has to do with ~~build quality and~~ safety.

Edit: strikethrough added based on incorrect assumption as pointed out below

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought it was purely due to inadequate rounding of angles on the body due to stricter pedestrian safety laws that the EU has. Does the EU have some kind of build quality testing and standard that the cybertruck failed?

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

I actually didn't quite remember the reason, so I checked it. The rounding is one main reason and the fact it is so heavy it requires a drivers license for trucks, as well as basically no demand. So no build quality requirements failed, but definitely safety related.

[–] KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Adhesive binding can be significantly stronger than mechanical bonding when done right.

...when done right. Yeah. Guess where I'm putting my money.

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[–] aarRJaay@lemm.ee 24 points 2 days ago

There's no consumer protection agency anymore. I wonder why.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Elon promise: 10nm precision Elon Delivers: truck stuck with glue.

I think the problem with Tesla is that they have too many legacy hires making decisions.

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The fuck is this website ?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

You went further than I did. I closed the tab as soon as I got that "press and hold" crap. If they value their page that much, they might as well keep it.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's some CDN doing that because I got that exact page trying to go to digikey yesterday. I had to disable Firefox's tracking protection to get past it

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 12 points 2 days ago

I grey-listed px-cdn.net and a couple of related things in UBO and was able to get in. It's not worth it. Article summary: "They used glue instead of welds/bonds/clips, and the glue is turning brittle and separating from the steel when it flexes (sometime simply due to temperature change)." More details: "It occurs more frequently, the higher the VIN."

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago

Toughest truck ever built, bullet proof, yada yada yada.

Well apparently it's not even wind proof. 🤣🤣🤣

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If the in-car cameras don't see you do Heil Hitler before every ride, they will occasionally instruct the computer to drop parts of the car. That is a standard feature. If you do the V sign, it will engage autopilot and crash you into the nearest wall. Pro-tip: if you want to do some sort of anti-nazi activity in your Cybershit, do it in winter, or early spring, as the "truck" can't do fuck, as the wheels don't work on snow or mud.

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[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I think I know why too - because they are pieces of shit that are poorly constructed.

If you haven't seen the clip, watch the guy that shuts the door kinda hard but not crazy and it no longer opens. Find me another vehicle like that - don't worry, I'll wait.

The clip

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[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

A Tesla owner who wraps the vehicles for a living has come up with a hypothesis as to why his truck lost a piece of its bodywork at speed.

The car is shit and poorly built. I don't think there is much of a mystery here.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

It’s going through puberty obviously

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

Because the truck is embarrassed, it's trying to mask itself

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

it just flew off while driving

Lol

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