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[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 93 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

You're probably not going to save 95% of the trees given the major earthworks likely needed for managing sewage, stormwater, and other utilities. You'll probably save most of them, though.

40k looks pretty optimistic for the size and number of buildings, too.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

probably not going to save 95% of the trees

I was wondering that too... maybe they meant: plant new trees, and the total number of new trees would be 95% of the number of old trees?

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 33 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I’m guessing they’re just not aware of construction impacts on trees. It’s not something most people think about.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 24 points 20 hours ago

I supposed they meant "And this amount of space is still available for greenery" rather than "These, specific, trees will be preserved"

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Depends how many floors they have but yeah, that would be quite high density at 60k/km²

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 0 points 13 hours ago

I don't know if it's the same in USA but with all these new regulations building houses these days is an environmental disaster

[–] urata@lemmy.world 36 points 21 hours ago

I work at a golf course and I'd rather be doing something meaningful like building homes so this post speaks to me directly.

Unfortunately the big thing lately is we've been dropping a bunch of trees.

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.org 10 points 17 hours ago

Now add in mixed use zoning, and affordable housing units and this could be a winner

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

That area should hold about 400 people, not 40,000. The trees won't survive unless they can see the sky.

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[–] odelik@lemmy.today 32 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If you just repurpose for housing you just wind up with 40,000 people needing transit and overloading the system you're trying to promote.

We need to think beyond housing and towards having communities that largely provide the needs of the people living with them. Shops, offices, other non-office/shop jobs, and recreational activities need to be considered as well.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

The neat part is that businesses can be in the bottom couple of floors. Though often this doesn't seem to be done unless it's the CBD...

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 32 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

BuT wHeRe WouLd i PaRk mY cAr?!?!!?

[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 46 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That's the neat part, you don't.

[–] CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works 31 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

car
car go
car go bye
cargo bike

[–] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 21 hours ago

if I saw this on a billboard/poster I'd have a new bike

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Truly the poet of our generation 🥲

[–] fnrir@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 21 hours ago

In the water hazard on the 14th hole.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 12 points 21 hours ago

Plus you can live in a pentagon! Just not the Pentagon.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago

When there's no more golf you'll know the rich fucks are gone.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Most suburban streets are 50 feet wide, many suburban front yards are 50 feet deep. That's a wasted space 150 feet wide and however long the street is long. Think of how much housing could be built in that space if you tore up that road, and in its place put a pair of alleyways housing in the middle

[–] ChokingHazard@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I would argue closer to 30, unless you’re including all the easement and sidewalks?

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I did some measuring on Google Earth and the distance from sidewalk (or on roads without a sidewalk from the road) to the front of houses in a major city nearish to me and found a few neighborhoods 50 feet to the house was about the standard. They also had 50 foot deep backyards!

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[–] admin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Good luck with the NIMBYs. Or NIMFYs now I guess?

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Not for nothing, but this wouldn't fly in the USA. You'd need to replace most of those trees with roads.

Or better yet, reduce the number of housing units and keep the trees.

[–] navi@lemmy.tespia.org 5 points 23 hours ago

This is Seattle btw, but I think the meme is that it won't fly.

[–] otto@sh.itjust.works 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Keeping all of the trees while also building a 40,000 unit apartment building on the same lot is gonna be a bit of a trick. Unless the building is 30 stories high. That might be normal in New York, but that’s not something you’re gonna see very much outside of the city.

I’m all for vertical city building, but keep in mind what is likely to happen in your local community.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure you've misunderstood the idea here in a couple of ways

[–] otto@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago

No, I get it. I was just trying to make a joke.

Apparently, it wasn’t very funny.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What if we just altered zoning laws so they don't restrict high-density residential buildings?

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Oh, they didn't change that, people living there need to get real good at dodging golf balls.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 23 hours ago

But where would we play golf?

[–] CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works 4 points 22 hours ago
[–] don@lemm.ee 4 points 23 hours ago

Yeah but then rich fucks wouldn’t have a place all to themselves to be rich fucks, so that’s a fuck you, poors, just be rich like us, thanks.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I guess that technically counts as a public sex forest then

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[–] mkhopper@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago
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