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The tesseract Lemmy app, has a little overview from mediabiasfactcheck.com (MBFC). It seems like a clever way to foster a healthy community.

If you click on the ranking you get details.

ranking details for CNN

EDIT: Sorry to stir up an old hornet's nest.

EDIT2: Commenters have some valid criticisms of MBFC. Even if there are flaws, I would like to celebrate all attempts at elevating the conversations we are having.

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 103 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is this the same media bias checking bot that thinks a Murdoch media owned news site was left leaning?

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As a left-leaning Canadian, this seems crazy to me. There's not even a place for me on this chart.

It's crazy how normalized right-wing extremism is. Well, it does explain the state of things in the US, though.

[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I also don't love that is has least biased in the center. Bias is a trait that is on an almost entirely separate axis.

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh dear god not this argument again

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right, I almost forgot about the rage against the MBFC bot that went on for like MONTHS lmao. Seeing it downvoted to hell was hilarious though lol

[–] nnullzz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbh I didn’t even mind what the bot was trying to do. I just remember opening what felt like every post and seeing dozens of lines taken up by the bot. I ended up just blocking it and cross-referencing with ground news myself.

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[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can you give the rundown on what happened for us newer people.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some of the news and politics communities added an automatic comment to new posts that linked to fact checking information, and a big portion of the community lost their minds about it. A lot of people found it biased, obtrusive, or unnecessary, and it generated a lot of conflict between the people who liked it or felt neutral. It went through many iterations based on the feedback before being removed entirely.

The entire saga was fairly disruptive and everyone is glad it's over.

[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Oh. Thank you for the concise rundown.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess I had missed it the first time

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

From the test that was done with the bot that was not a good source. 1) American focus 2) too much room for debate on the ranking Here some discussion on it https://lemmy.world/post/18073070

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago

I blocked the bot as soon as I learned how. The ratings are a joke - mostly because of its American bias.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I suppose we've got to keep at it until we're at a point where doing something is better than doing nothing. Where, of course, doing nothing is somewhat of an acknowledgement of the fact it's hard to do something right enough to be able to apply it to all posts and all articles and all that.

An analogy comes to mind: it’s like the difference between telling hikers they’re at their own risk and advising them to bring water, good shoes, and a fully charged battery, and they'll be fine. If you can't account for everything, there are arguments to be made with trying to shift responsibility back to people with either more general or more specific warnings.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

I agree that this is necessary, but we need to be mindful with the implementation. A decentralized approach might be more effective than relying on a centralized list. As you mentioned, a warning that encourages people to think critically and not take everything at face value is likely the best solution for now.

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[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't see any comments when I click that link

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you have filter? Block community? Like politics 😝

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

That's really cool. Looks great too.

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