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MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell criticized Donald Trump’s Oval Office press conference with Elon Musk, calling it “the most powerless image of a president” ever.

Musk dominated the event—standing over Trump, speaking more words, and violating White House norms with his casual attire and child’s presence.

O’Donnell contrasted Musk’s influence with Trump’s past and present vice presidents, arguing that neither Mike Pence nor JD Vance would challenge Trump’s authority in such a manner.

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[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Think of the relationship as a CEO and the chairman of the board, this is the way Trump sees it. The CEO is front and center but does the bidding of the chairman.

I don't think this is accurate of course but I'm sure Trump sees it this way.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago

I have never seen Trump act more servile towards anyone than when he pulled a chair out for Netanyahu.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 32 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wormtongue has made himself very cosy in his new home it would seem.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I understood that reference... but Theodin was a good man

[–] CaptSneeze@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Truth. This is more like having two Wormtongues trying to corrupt each other.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

Wormtongue and Denethor, maybe.

[–] CaptSneeze@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

Except, instead of having a crippling love for his son, this Denethor has a daughter he wants to fuck.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 69 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You want to get rid of Musk, stuff like this is how you do it.

Publicly make Trump out to be the lessor power in the relationship and his ego won't be able to handle it. Look how fast he lost his shit during that debate with Harris when the subject of his crowd size came up.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Publicly make Trump out to be the lessor power in the relationship and his ego won’t be able to handle it.

That's what I've thought until now, but after that display I don't think he'll do anything to Musk, who it seems really does have some power over him--the money of course, but maybe something else too--maybe some dirt, maybe something in conjunction with Putin. But to let that little brat say those things[*] to him and his only reaction was to be submissive and look away tells me Musk really is the one in control here. This is actually scary.

[*] "You're not the president, you need to go away" and "I want you to shut your fucking mouth up"

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

tips tinfoil hat

He rigged the election for him... Even if it didn't cause the win, if he has irrefutable proof he rigged the election then he can bring Trump down with him. He could boost it into everyone's Twitter feeds that he didn't actually win and they would be forced to do something about it.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

That's a good one, though I'm not sure even that would turn his followers against him or get the republican party to willingly give up the power they've gained. Though, maybe it would get the military to defy their fox news boss and oust him.

[–] joker125@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

This is 2016 Trump coming home to roost

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I really think people who say this aren't reading the room. It's not the same old Trump. This is an old broken down mentally deficient Trump. This isn't a case of an alliance between equals. This is a case of a grifter taking advantage of a guy too old to make decisions for himself. This is like a guy stealing the Social Security checks , altering the will , and selling assets for his own gain. I mean by all means keep saying it, cuz who knows and it is true, I just don't think it'll work. If anything it might be embolding Musk and legitimizing him.

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[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Please share this imagewhose your daddy

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty obvious that Jabba-the Orange is incompetent, confused and weak - a prime target for an even sleazier opportunist.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Or a puppeteer to pull his strings (or y'know... If he's a ventriloquist's dummy...)

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 35 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The whole thing seemed to me to be a cutscene from the Red Alert universe.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Man I miss Westwood studios so much. All their games are masterpieces. I still play red alert 2 with my mom to this day, she introduced the series to me as a very young lad back in 1997

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm catching a ride with Tim Curry

[–] Zotora@programming.dev 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Biscuit@ani.social 2 points 12 hours ago

All aboard to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitaliam?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 199 points 1 day ago (7 children)

violating White House norms with his casual attire and child’s presence.

He also had a 5 year old with him.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 123 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Ah yes, his human shield he's had since The Luigi Event.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Poor kid is named X. What stupid assholes his parents are: he's gonna have to bear that stupid name all his life.

Then again, he could have been called Twitter I guess...

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 24 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

he's gonna have to bear that stupid name all his life.

Now now... They could legally change it when they're 18.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Except Republicans are pushing anti-trans laws to prevent people from changing their names. The current proposal floating around would prevent married women from voting because they take on their husband's last name.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Great reason to get rid of the dumb archaic practice in the first place. I repeatedly told my wife she shouldn't feel any pressure to take my name. She did anyway, but I think it was just because she liked it more.

Anyway, sacrificing your ability to vote in order to take your husbands last name might have the oh so unfortunate side effect of keeping trad wives from voting.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

My wife kept her name when we got married ten years ago. It has only caused minimal problems with bureaucracy.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 68 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Fucking love it when articles are specifically about a photo but they don’t post the fucking photo

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[–] cmoney@lemmy.world 124 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Weird how one CEO gets Luigied and suddenly it's bring your kid to work day for president Musk.

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 27 points 21 hours ago

Lol I think I can get behind Luigi as a verb

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 130 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

Also, who wears a basebal cap and a T-shirt, and brings his four-year old who - like any four-year old - can't shut the hell up in the oval office? I mean honestly, who is this guy? Just because he has money doesn't give him the right to turn the presidency into a fucking daycare center. He could at least pretend to respect the institution a little bit...

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 114 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The 4 year old is nothing more than a meat shield. Remember how right after the CEO shooting, Elmo started carrying one of his brood with him?

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

We were being shown who the real owners are (incel Dogebags like fElon) , and diaper donvict has to sit there and take it along with the rest of us.

[–] WilhelmStroker@lemmy.world 101 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure the right wingers complaining about Zelensky not wearing a suit are incandescent with rage about Musks lack of decorum.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The same people who raged about Obama's tan suit

[–] Tja@programming.dev 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 12 hours ago

Or choice of lettuce leaf.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

Either Trump will boot Musk out because he can't stand the perception that someone is giving him orders or this will be literally the only time that he has not done the stupidly petty thing, because the one thing you can rely on Donald Trump to do is the worst possible thing.

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