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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Whoa, either they're incredibly unaware of the recent news in Gaza or this is quite mask off about their side and goals. "the moral stain of reelecting genocide"? Give me a fucking break, the conflict was self-resolving right before Trump's inauguration. Now he's fanning the flames.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 166 points 2 days ago (7 children)
[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think it's also the unwillingness of the left to accept "baby steps" towards a goal. The right is perfectly happy to inch towards their endgame and it's working.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

This is always my biggest gripe too. Even if the right doesn't "win," they take whatever they can get and they hold on to it. They'll put players in every position and strike together and often. There were tons of interviews of concervatives saying, "I don't agree on x, but I like y, so I'm voting for Trump." A lot of the left is "if I can't get literally every single thing I want right now, then I don't care if it all burns down."

As a example, look at slavery. Slavery is abhorrent, but we didn't stop because we weren't getting it all. Only half of the country allows us to be free? Alright, we're running north and we will keep fighting. We learned how to read in poorly funded schools, we sat at colored only tables, we got lesser medical care, lesser resources, but we knew that every small battle was getting closer to winning the war. Yes, it's painstakingly slow, but we did what we had to do to keep moving. Yeah, Harris was not our savior. She had/has issues, but she also seemed like she wouldn't be doing, well... gestures wildly.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Agreed. I didn't hear much if any grumbling from the US conservative base in the decades before Roe was overturned toward their politicians, provided that politician opposed abortion. It was enough they believed the "correct" thing and did what they could within the restrictions of the law, until process aligned in their favor via convenient Supreme Court vacancies.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey, look, it's [90% of the people I argued with on Lemmy before election day]!

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 202 points 2 days ago (19 children)

I am absolutely disgusted by this. Basically they are saying they intentionally and knowingly manipulated Palestinian Americans and pro-Palestinians into allowing a Trump victory and the doubling up of the growing threat of a trans, queer and POC genocide among much more violence.

You may have different opinions from me about the third party voters and the culpability they carry, but I hope we all can agree that Jason Call and company here are blatantly evil and have blood on their hands.

Hoping this can be a moment of reactionary leftist unity. Fuck every leader who actively worked towards MAGA. I’m doing my best to organize and do damage control, but not because some dumbass Jill Stein employee told me to. You should too.

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[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 82 points 1 day ago (11 children)

If a protest could work under trump why wouldn't it work under Harris?

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

Very true, this guy is a dumb ass.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 117 points 2 days ago (4 children)

"Were going to not elect genocide by electing ultra-genocide!"

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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He has yet to stop the genocide for that to hold a colander' worth of water.

[–] sartalon@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago

In fact, he wants to take over Gaza and kick ALL the Palestinians out. And people STILL make the argument that a vote NOT for Kamala was somehow opposing genocide. It was never on referendum, for any of the candidates.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago

"To cut off your own nose to spite the face" is the only thing that comes to mind here.

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