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[–] ScumSpotted@r.nf 1 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago) (1 children)

Look up the word "genocide" in your posting history.

This is you. You care way more about what a bunch of american voted than the actual genocide. You're spending way more energy whining about your stupid elections than trying to do something about the genocide.

You don't give a fuck about foreigners. You only care about yourself and your country. You don't deserve to win elections.

[–] reliv3@lemmy.world 2 points 17 minutes ago

Hi there. This is the second thread I've seen you post this rhetoric. As an American who lives 6000 miles away from Israel, what exactly are you expecting? You want us to all take up arms, fly over the Atlantic Ocean and fight? If you are going to harshly condemn Americans actions, then at least provide a reasonable alternative to these actions.

The reality is Americans are doing this because elections is a way a lot of us feel like we can make a difference (regardless of the validity of these beliefs). To people who lack the ability to make predictions, the presidential election seemed like a lose/lose scenario regarding the topic of the Genocide of Palestinians. To people who have the ability to make predictions, they understood that voting Trump into power would result in more harm coming to the Palestinians, so we reluctantly went out and voted for Harris.

Here we are today, and most of our predictions regarding Trump is coming true, so some of us are now trying to rub it in the faces of the Americans who probably should have voted for Harris, but decided to sit home or vote third party on election day...

Now, I do hear you though. Ultimately, it sucks the most for Palestinians who are living the Genocide. Unfortunately, there isn't much the average American can do about it, so we instead focus on topics that feel more practical (like the elections and American politics).

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 hour ago

They are just not that important in comparison with all the other crap going on.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago

Ok, Fuck Israel. I confess, it's been a while since I typed that here.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Pretty sure they probably got deported after Trump signed that executive order to deport pro-palestinian protestors.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I haven’t seen a single group of protesters on my daily like i used to before the election and I’m in Canada. People have short attention spans and move on, just ask Ukraine who was forgotten by non Ukrainians as soon as the next one came up. In Canada we’re on to the fuck American products movement. People don’t actually care as much as they yell out. Commenting on Reddit and Lemmy is about all they do now.

[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

Building a world conquering engine takes time, resources, blood, sweat, and tears. In short, I know I can't force the hands that bind, but if I keep on moving toward that goal, eventually, the calvary IS coming, and they are going to slaughter every last one of these bastards.

[–] ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They are no longer getting paid by republican PACs trying to foment dissent

[–] ScumSpotted@r.nf 3 points 1 hour ago

"FomEnT DissenT" bitch hearing my friend died in lebannon is all the payment I need. The dems the ones fomenting dissent with all those bombs they sent to a genocidal regimes.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Neoliberal good cop/fascist bad cop was always a race to the bottom. This was inevitable so long as we fail to cut the capitalists down to size, and both parties are paid to defend their con game from us by stoking social issue division to stop the peasants from looking up at the oligarchs, our common enemies whether you've been brainwashed into worshipping them or not.

I voted for Harris out of attempted harm reduction as I do like clockwork for the lesser evil, but voting Neoliberal only slowed the sinking, it was never going to make things better, just worse a little slower as the Neoliberals kept meeting their opposition in the new middle every cycle to keep up with the market's demands for new, crueler ways to privately profit off human misery both parties are paid to defend and expand. A vote for continued quiet capitalist slaughter over loud, bragging capitalist slaughter. Not peace. Under Harris, healthcare rackets would still be murdering Americans legally, homeless Americans would still be dying in droves literally as a point to keep the laborers fearful as it would be cheaper to house them then deal with the fallout of them being homeless, etc.

But by all means keep the focus of your ire on the people who had nothing to vote for, only against for the last half century. You're basically attacking the silent cowards in 1930 Germany and not the Nazis.

There are only 2 ways this ends, either the Mario's brother method, or capitalist enforced climate change will collapse the capitalist's con game and human civilization for us if humanity is too chickenshit to depose the economic metastasis, growth ~~or~~ and die capitalist cult and embrace economic equilibrium with environmental homeostasis. The parties are captured. No amount of voting will fix this. Reagan and Kemp saw to that when they captured their opposition. The last vote Americans had on the shape and priorities of our inhuman economy was in 1980, we only get a vote on how to address the social wedge symptoms of it, and only if addressing those symptoms won't meaningfully effect quarterly earnings expectations.

Whether it was Trump in 2020, this, or one of his mutant children in another 4 years, our tolerance and worship of greed was going to lead to this. Maga, Trump's rise as more than a gameshow host con-man, and imperialism are symptoms of our avarice rot induced collapse, not the causes. The cause are the capital markets being allowed to infect our politics and override any societal values we ever had prior to other than metastasize at all human cost.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Fully agree. There are exactly two options for people at this point: fully capitulate and gargle fascist balls (this hastens world death), or kill fascist scum at every opportunity (this may slow world death if done with enough gusto)

[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 111 points 18 hours ago (19 children)

Wtf are you talking about? Free Palestine protesters are still actively organizing their communities and providing support where they can. The same groups are literally still staging actions and fighting for the freedom, liberatation, and survival of Palestinian people at home and abroad. Who do you think you're clowning on with this meme? The people fighting against genocide didnt just give up because we have a new worse president.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 47 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They're literally at the White House as we speak lol....

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/5/as-trump-meets-netanyahu-protesters-chant-palestine-is-not-for-sale

The real question is why is OP still supporting a genocide now that it's trump in office and not Biden.

Like, it apparently wasn't about blind loyalty to Biden, they just authentically support genocide.

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

Rather alarming number of people I've encountered in the UK have a view something like "it's horrible, but they brought it on themselves". These don't seem to be straightforward horrible people. As they would also say the Holocaust and Armenia and Rwanda (etc) were evil.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 27 points 18 hours ago

“I started ignoring the pro-Palestinians because I decided I don’t care anymore. Where did all the pro-Palestinians go?” -OP

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

With that kind of "support", why have enemies? The Free Palestine movement is doing their opposition's work far better than they could. Helping along the movement's self-defeating strategy could be their best move: with a few more antagonistic governments, the Palestinian cause will be over in no time.

[–] ScumSpotted@r.nf 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They are not supporting you, idiot. They support genocide victims.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 90 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

It's just not being covered.

Attention is everything, folks. Palestine protestors could be mowed down on Capitol Hill, and if its blotted out by everyone's feeds... Well, it hardly even matters, it terms of policy and public opinion.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

Welcome to why Trump is firehosing all these executive orders. Give nobody time to focus on anything, keep everyone fragmented and squabbling over where to focus...

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 17 hours ago (15 children)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/5/as-trump-meets-netanyahu-protesters-chant-palestine-is-not-for-sale

Literally today. Just because you don't give a shit about Palestine and are ignoring their struggle, doesn't suddenly make it stop. The same groups who were protesting the genocide when it was happening under Biden are still out there protesting.

I can't help but feel like the Dems end goal with this kinda bullshit is to try and manufacture this idea that leftist outrage over Gaza is entirely fabricated. We couldn't really care about brown people, we must have made up a bunch of nasty lies to make Kamala Harris look bad! It's really self-telling that they can't imagine genocide would be a bridge too far.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago

It matters if lay people are aware. I think the post is a useful signal that awareness of the issue is getting drowned out by everything else falling apart.

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 58 points 18 hours ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/as-trump-meets-netanyahu-protesters-chant-palestine-is-not-for-sale/ar-AA1yqJeO

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/1/28/students-protest-settlement-standards/

It's still happening, just not getting anywhere close to the level of coverage it was during the election. Because back in October the big US media companies were trying to paint Biden, Harris, Walz, and the entire Democrat party as being much worse than Trump would be for Palestine. I didn't see much coverage of Trump's relationship with Netanhyahu or looking back at what happened in 2017-2020 back the either.

Now that Trump has won there's no point in stoking any unrest. He's instead cracking down on protests and cancelling the visas of foreign students who are caught protesting.

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 36 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They didn't go anywhere, but the media now doesn't need to paint the current admin as "the bad guys" by highlighting the protest groups, so they are not getting the same amount of screen time.

Now the playbook is to make it look like everyone agrees with the governments stance, so quash the protests, ignore their efforts, arrest the instigators.

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago

We do. If we couldn't convince fucking Biden why do you think Trump is gonna care

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 18 hours ago

Why aren't y'all as vocal about an ongoing genocide as you are about a completely failed candidate from months ago?

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Yeah I'm sure that's it, you nailed it. It turns out that everyone that disagreed with you last year was actually a secret Russian agent. It's definitely not that primaries and the run up to the presidential election are unique opportunities to push the Democratic candidates father left. Who knew?!

Fediverse is fucking glowing

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/5/as-trump-meets-netanyahu-protesters-chant-palestine-is-not-for-sale

Looks like outside the White House today...

Why are people still shitting on the people protesting genocide now that Biden isn't in charge?

I thought it was blind loyalty to the letter D, but if that was the case you'd be against genocide now...

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 11 points 18 hours ago

“I closed my eyes, why can’t I see anything?” -OP

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 6 points 14 hours ago

Those same folks where never going to support anything regardless. Biden is too old! Genocide Joe! Trump will fix it! Nothing but bullshit all the way down.

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