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[–] llamatron@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (11 children)

To be fair to the BBC, they're 'supposed' to report the facts without judgement. How successful they are at that is debated endlessly, you can find anyone of any political flavour who will swear blind the BBC is 'obviously' biased against 'them'. They can't win no matter what they do.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Nah, I remember back when Corbyn was the leader of the Labour Party and the BBC gleefully participated in the campaign to slander him, including in a news program having as a background a large picture of him digitally altered to put a Soviet hood on his head.

I also remember countless "two side" discussions hosted by the BBC on things like worker rights or the Environment were they put a professional politician on the side against it facing a total amateur on the side for it.

The BBC's "two sides" has always been a multi-layered propaganda format, starting by the small detail that any social and political subject which is not ridiculously simple has more than 2 options to interpret and tackle it - in other words, more than 2 sides - and going into the above mentioned point that their supposedly open "giving equal voice to both sides" is actually controlled by their choice of the subject matter, who represents each side and even the interviewer's take on each side and accompanying materials (a typical example would be them reporting as event as "such and such happened" when the source is IDF versus "According to Hamas such and such happened" when the source is Hamas).

The BBC are very sophisticated in how they do it, but their output is heavily spinned and propagandistic.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

That this is a very poor excuse at propaganda because the BBC goes out of its way to use "loaded terms" when it comes to adversaries of the empire.

Here is an example from yesterday. https://youtu.be/34Ta0IcQi-E?t=85

Impartiality goes out of the window when the BBC needs to remind everyone that "the Palestinian health ministry is ran by Hamas which is designated as a terrorist organisation in America, the UK and Europe" every single time the death toll in Gaza is brought up as well.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

"The unprecedented attack on October 7th." is here to justify Israel slaughtering tens of thousands of starving civilians.

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The problem for the BBC is that not all stories have equally valid opposing views but they are forced to treat both sides equally at all times.. So as the world drifts further and further to insanity, their reporting makes crazy positions seem legitimate as they have to be aired alongside more mainstream views.

It worked OK when the world was fairly stable and political positions were close together. It doesn't work when political positions are so polarised and extreme.

Case in point: Brexit. The BBC really struggled in challenging extreme positions and outright lies during the brexit campaign.

Unfortunately though I'm not sure there is much alternative. Its fat from perfect but provably the best a public service broadcaster can try to do. At least it tries to provide the facts so people can make up their own minds - that in itself remains laudable.

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[–] Ghosthacked@lemm.ee 20 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

China really needs to start throwing their weight around on the global stage if they want to be anything more than a regional power.

China should be filling the vacuum on the global stage that the US is vacating.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

China already is extending their hand to places affected by USAID being shut down, I believe.

Everyone had this prediction that China would become the world's number one superpower at some point, but I don't know if people predicted that was because the U.S. shot itself it the face.

[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 8 points 17 hours ago

the hostile corporate takeover is in full effect in the USA. The downfall of America is happening in realtime at an accelerated rate. Capitalism will be the downfall of whatever democracy was left in the US.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 16 hours ago

Maybe after the Chinese authorian regime is done with the cleansing of the uyghurs, they take the place of the US and help Israel with the cleansing of Palestine

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So much for "never again," eh? More like "whenever we feel like it" if trends in global hegemony are any indication.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

They did their job: telling you about news that just occurred at that moment. For the analysis they will need some time. Which is absolutely right.

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