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Abstentionists be like "we did it! we saved Gaza!"

Abstentionists are dumbasses.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

As an American... that dumbass doesn't speak for me. I sure as fuck didn't vote for him. I'm unfortunately stuck with him. But I have no want to take over any land... anywhere. Trump should man up, take ownership, and say HE wants to take over Gaza strip, Panama, Canada,... Earth.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Not voting for him is one thing, but also being eligible to vote and not voting for Kamala makes one an accomplice too. Even voting for a third party doesn't count, because that took away votes that could have gone towards the one contender.

[–] Tears_of_a_Saint@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It is difficult to vote for a party that has done nothing in over 1 year of active genocidal acts. Kamala and the Dems should have had the common decency to fight what Israel was doing, rather than appease, defend and provide further weaponry, money and legitimacy. They lost this election by themselves, and while the Palestinians in Gaza are likely to suffer more in the months to come, it is not because voters didn't vote for Trump's opposition. The Democratic Party was weak, the campaign was weak, the candidate was weak, and their vision was weak. Stop blaming voters and start working to fix the real issue at hand. We need a better Democratic Party.

[–] elegy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

still way less difficult holding your nose and voting than overthrowing fascism later

though being one vote away from it to begin with, the cracks were fairly large

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 16 points 6 hours ago
[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I feel like he’s just doing shit to see how far he can get away with at this point. Or maybe this is ten dementia talking it’s insane

[–] annoyedNH603@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

Is it really a shocker he said this?

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago

Shock

To people who weren't paying attention probably

Trump is gonna pretend like he meant forcing the Saudi/Qatar proposal that the Biden administration was attempting to negotiate and people will call him genius.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago

I knew it will end up like this when protest non-voters said they won't vote for "Holocaust Harris"...

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said the U.S. would take over the war-ravaged Gaza Strip and develop it economically

The scope of this statement is a shock, but the motivation that led to it, isn't. That said, I hate everything about this.

I'm not the first to bring this up, but it bears repeating. This is colonialism, plain and simple. That, in turn, is an outcome of unchecked capitalism. Practiced ideologically (i.e. as the guiding light in one's life), it holds up "exploitation at all costs" as a virtue. Second to that is "give your competition no quarter." Combined, that explains the current state of affairs.

We all may be used to thinking of colonialism as some thing that ended on one more more independence days in the last 300 years or so. In reality, the engines of commerce and industry that made that happen kept right on running. Since nation-state-sized real-estate deals like this don't come along very often anymore, these animals are quick to react and pounce before someone else figures out how to exploit the situation.

As an aside: the attitudes and values that enabled things like the US westward expansion, slavery, classism, eradication of indigenous peoples, environmental destruction in the pursuit of minerals, pollution and litter from energy extraction, etc., are still alive and well in the population. Being this kind of evil is insanely profitable under the right conditions, which confers an outsized advantage to reproduction and social influence. Which is to say that it's not the ideology of capitalism that propels these values to stay with us, but rather the other way around. It's as though those colonists with exploitation in their hearts are still very much with us, and that's something to keep an eye on.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 60 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Punk rock predicted this.

Propagandhi - Haille Sellasse Up Your Ass

"The West Bank, The Gaza Strip, soon will be parking lots for American tourists, and fascist cops"

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[–] TetraVega@lemmings.world 26 points 11 hours ago

Trump doesn't speak for his citizens. "Trump" is the one who wants it

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