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[–] Lila_Uraraka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Both can be correct, it's not a hard black and white split

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is why I usually try not to label myself these days. Invariably there is nuance that I'm not aware of, or that some others interpret differently.

I'm NOT a democrat, republican, conservative, communist, socialist, liberal, maga, or anarchist.

But I lean left on social issues, often hard left, though I say that while also saying I'm firmly anti-authoritarian. And I don't really put fiscal on a separate axis because there are fiscal impacts to any set of beliefs with regard to how various social issues should be considered. I'm also not at all conversant in the slightest bit of nuance regarding how the economy works.

I'm sure some folks would call me a leftist based on the above. Others would insist I'm a liberal. Am I a progressive? Not sure.

[–] millie@beehaw.org -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This framing isn't particularly helpful for solidarity.

The left relies on coalitions. Criticizing the stewards of those coalitions because they fail to address the needs of the people they rely on for votes is helpful and constructive. Just reducing all left-wing voters to a pair of stereotypes and trying to push one of those stereotypes away from the other? Not helpful.

We need nuanced dialogue and mutual aid. It's a matter of survival. This isn't that.

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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Both are good, one is better

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The "left" is way too broad of a grouping today. The classic political compass is 2D with left-right referring to economic and up-down (authoritarian-libertarian) to social policy. And even that is oversimplifying it, many saying it should be 3D. Grouping everyone into either A or B is I guess what humans do when their understanding of a topic is too narrow.

I find this especially funny with Trump's tariffs. You know, the mechanism with which you control the market... closing it... like leftist economic policy does. Trump is a leftist now? Any more tariffs and he'll be a complete communist! Dismantle more government and he'll be an anarchist! It just completely falls apart.

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