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Omnivore here. These egg prices are why I'm going to try a new recipe the next time I make homemade noodles. Guess I'll be dipping my toes in veganism when I make soup with that, because I'm already using soy protein chunks. I doubt I'll go full vegan, but I also doubt I'm the only person who'll be experimenting with new ingredients as a result of absurd prices.
Vaccines are made with eggs, it will affect you
Even if eggs go to $24/dozen, then the cost of egg per dose of flu vaccine would be less than a $1. I only get one flu vaccine a year, so still irrelevant. Also alternative methods for flu vaccine exist and are used already.
And you don't think pharma will skyjack the price because they can?
Not mRNA vaccines (like covid)
There usually are vegan vaccine variants if you're privledged enough to be able to access and demand them. It's usually far outside my level of acceptable practicality to do so though, so I get the default version.
But disease doesn't exist. Maybe those chickens just need a little bleach injection.
Ok so, i understand that it's way more than it used to be but... Is $10 for a dosen really THAT bad? Are People using eggs literally every meal or something? I LITERALLY heard someone complaining about this while grabbing some at costco. Like genuinely upset and acting like they can never have eggs again while they have a cart easily pushing $400 of stuff not all of which is food.
I feel like everyone is strangely focused on eggs when there are way worse things going through the roof
Yes and yes. I buy them from a farm, they're cheap and delicious. I have eggs for breakfast and I have eggs as a snack in the evening
Any recommendations for a good source of omega 3 fatty acids for a plant based diet?
I think you'd probably need more than in an animal based diet since plant based fats and oils have way more omega 6 then animal based fats which can fuck up the balance.
The opposite is true, o3/6 exist in balance. If you don’t eat any omega3 your body gets a lot better at converting o6. Vegans get better omega readings than people who eat fish 2-3x a week.
Ground flax in cooking and you’re sorted
There's loads, my best recommendations are algea oil or sea weed, soya, nuts, seeds take your pick.
my regular-ass cold-pressed rapeseed oil that i use for regular-ass frying has both omega 3 and omega 6
Can anyone familiar with veganism answer me a curiosity?
Would someone who's vegan be fine with owning their own chickens and using them for eggs? If you're not engaging in the marketplace for them, you can absolve yourself of the suffering egg laying hens in factory farms could be experiencing, but I'm not sure how the 'suffer free because I raised them' plays into the belief/practice.
Veganism is a philosophy about animal exploitation. Vegans don't even eat honey because it is an animal product. If you eat eggs from a back yard chicken, you are still participating in the exploitation of that animal and feeding systems which further exploit animals. Some detailed further reading:
https://theminimalistvegan.com/backyard-eggs/
So no, a vegan would not do this. Though, what OP said about nomenclature remains true - some people are loose with the terms
e: a word
Would it be exploitation to give food, shelter, love, companionship etc in exchange for the eggs?
I personally think free-range farming in a non-harmful way is great, but you should still consider that the chicken is incapable of consenting. Your relationship with any confined animal is inherently a slave/master one, and I understand why some people object to that. We're keeping the animal comfortable and extending their lifespan, but we're also robbing them of agency, and I feel like that's something worth thinking about.
This has been discussed thousands of times online so I don't feel the need to type out a very long answer.
The pure existence of modern day chickens is animal abuse. The closest known relative to the modern day chicken lays about 10-15 or so eggs a year. Modern day chickens lay eggs daily. It is extremely hard on their body, they have been selectively bred to provide output with no care for their wellbeing.
That being said, if a vegan were to rescue a chicken or something, and it produces eggs, the best you can do is usually feed them back to it. I know that sounds weird but if you feed the chicken back its own eggs, it helps recuperate lost nutrients, and they love it.
I agree with what the others said, but I just want to point out that this 'model' vegan isn't nearly as important as you might think. You don't get a prize or hivemind access or whatever for conforming to some exact criteria. It's ultimately just a convenient label to summarize that you've made certain moral choices. Well, and to easily identify products that work well with your choices. But making those choices is very much each person's own adventure.
Other than the vegan powers of course
Of course.
And they're not without downsides. Since becoming all-knowing, I do sometimes forget that not everybody knows about vegan powers.
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the laser eyes are particularly cool, it sucks that they only work when you're alone, though.
You would need to buy the chicken from somewhere. You would only buy the female chicken, because you want the eggs. There would still be male chickens that no one wants, except for reproduction. That would at least be my logic so I'd say no.
It really depends on the type of "vegan". Some people are in it for the dietary benefits and others are in it for the animal welfare. Dietary is actually "plant based" but most people just say vegan, even it it doesn't quite fit.