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[–] JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Probably this is all very reactionary, NVIDIA's stock will recover and they'll remain a big player in the LLM space.

But I'm uninterested in LLM's and would love to see price drops on GPU's, so i hope there is a longer term moderate market loss for them in this space.

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

but many people say that they only still make gpu's out of inertia and image issues. it's no longer their main business.

[–] JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

For now. (Probably for later, too.)

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 weeks ago

I'm so glad I sold last week at 140. I've been meaning to get rid of them as soon as Trump got in office because I had a gut feeling he might fuck something up.

But surprise! China pops up with its own AI and shit hits the fan. It probably won't last though, but I ain't buying nvda anymore. Not with their CEO falling in line with every other techno fascists.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Is it really that big of a fall?

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 65 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe to stock people since they panic at everything but it’s way up overall

[–] Deadeyegai@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly. Once a stock hits a certain price swings one way or another do have big impact on market cap right now. But context and history are important in the grand scheme

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah NVIDIA recovered from way worse during the pandemic

[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago

~12% for a widely speculated upon stock, not really.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Only for day traders

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

China good because capitalism bad.

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I know this is a joke, but China has more capitalism than the US.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If you use a non-traditional definition of Capitalism, I suppose, and you are referring to quantity, not power or percentage of the economy. They are more accurately described as a Socialist Market Economy, relying on state owned heavy industry (steel, banking, energy, transportation) and heavily controlled and planned private owned light industry (many consumer goods, clothing, gaming, etc). That's a major oversimplification, of course, but they run on Marxist-Leninist conceptions of economics.

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

they're a deformed proletarian state.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think that's accurate, though. If we look at the makeup of the NPC, it is largely Proletarian, and this infographic shows how the democratic structure of the CPC works. Most of all, though, the Trotskyist notion that public ownership and planning isn't "true Socialism" if it isn't done purely horizontally is pretty clearly a misunderstanding of Marxian economics and class dynamics.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

china is transitioning to socialism, they have a somewhat free market still.

if they are doing capitalism better than the us, thats on the us honestly.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Technical clarification: China is already Socialist, at least in the Marxist conception. What they are working on is reaching further and further stages of Socialism and increased socialization of the economy through focusing on both developing the productive forces and alleviating poverty.