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An Apology and correction (lemm.ee)
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Hello, I didn't know where to post this to, which community. I came to Lemmy with the initial reddit migration. I just play video games and smok weed mostly. Lately, the state of the world has me down. And I'm into philosophy.

Basically, in a bunch of recent posts, some deleted by me, others by Mods, and plenty still up.. I thought the term I was trying to explain was called being a Misanthrope.. Someine replied it's called Eco-Fasicm.. I didn't do enough research and started commenting about that.. I'm truly sorry! I felt it sounded wrong eventually and asked an AI called Llama 3.1 what I was really searching for.. It is called "Misanthropic Anti-Natalism". The position that human existence is inherently problematic and that the best solution is for humans to go extinct. This ideology is often based on the idea that humans are a destructive force on the planet, causing harm to other species and the environment, and that our existence is a net negative.

There is a lot more to read on this if you choose to look. Personally, I hope that a bio-phage will be created somewhere with 3d-printers in a science lab using amino acid blocks, synthetic viruses, nano-tech, powered by AI that singularly targets the Human Genome only... Release/Hack it across the planet, Unbelievably contagious.. Most Human pop dead within a week. The straggling Bunker people and billionaires will expire soon after as the air is still death for humans and powered by a defensive AI... Lol sci-fi I know.. but at least more plausible than a Genie's wish for magical extinction...

Misanthropic Anti-Natalists often argue that human beings are driven by Self-Interest, greed, and a desire for power, which leads to exploitation and destruction of other species and the environment. They may also argue that human existence is inherently contradictory to the well-being of other species and the planet as a whole...

Thanks for listening! I'd like other people's ideas on this? I don't believe in God either. Just Thermo-dynamics and Universal Entropy.. the great mixing.

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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I think it's okay for things to be bad and also good

that human beings are driven by Self-Interest, greed, and a desire for power, which leads to exploitation and destruction of other species and the environment.

Those are bad things, and they're broadly true, but they're not the only thing that's true about humans or living creatures.

There's certainly also lots of good in them. There are people in my life who show me love and kindness and compassion and care and selflessness, and beautiful things that come from the existence of messy, imperfect, deeply flawed creatures like us. Nothing is quite so binary.

I think in many ways, wanting all life to die is a relfection of being deeply flawed and having a desire for order and control and perfection for self serving reasons.

[–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Very interesting, and I can certainly see the sense in your words. Thank you for your insight!

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Thank you for sharing ideas and talking about your way of relating with the world with me, I think this is one of the beautiful things that comes of our deeply flawed messy existences :)

[–] tlou3please@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Well, it's not my personal view but I respect the logic, we certainly are a bit of a disaster as a species.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm down

[–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Heya Stinky, how's it going? I figure as the years tick over and everything becomes more grim and dire, more people will become familiar with the idea of Misanthropic Anti-Natalism and generally accept Human Extinction as a natural and good thing!

[–] hisao@ani.social 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Personally, I hope that a bio-phage will be created somewhere with 3d-printers in a science lab using amino acid blocks, synthetic viruses, nano-tech, powered by AI that singularly targets the Human Genome only… Release/Hack it across the planet, Unbelievably contagious…

Sounds like Covid19 😅

Anyway, if it makes you feel any better, animals are also driven by self-interest and don't hesitate to exploit and destroy other species and environment.

[–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I mean if that's completely true then is answer no life at all? I'm gonna have to ask the AI more questions? What is it called, the philosophy that NO, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA life should be allowed to exist? We talking Mass Effect Reaper Thinking? I seem to recall either Iain M Banks or perhaps Neal Asher, no wait probably Peter F. Hamilton writing about deep-space AI systems wiping out any life that arises from the muck.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The answer might be—and I'm being serious here, not flippant—consulting with a psychologist or psychiatrist. You've gone from thinking all humans should be killed to thinking all life should be killed at the drop of a hat. This is not healthy.

[–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm chaotic Neutral mate... A realist.. there's no actual such thing as right or wrong, good or evil, up or down.. Nothing actually matters in the universe... Now having said that, no, I don't want the animals and plants on this planet to die or suffer! I want to know the term however.. Also for the record I despise Order and Stagnation, reliability and the comfort of routine... Chaos, ever-changing and refusing to close doors.. While also acknowledging and understanding the Paradox of Tolerance.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Again, you probably want to take this up with a counselor or something. "Chaotic Neutral" isn't a term that has any meaning outside of a specific style of game. You are now reaching for game terminology to talk about killing all human beings with engineered diseases.

While you're at it, put your analyst on danger money.

[–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok I'm sorry if I've worried you. I kinda knew even when posting this most people simply will not understand. I think it's due to Self-Preservation and survival instincts hard-coded in all of us.. no worries friend if you're not convinced.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 0 points 18 hours ago

"Simply not understand" what? You don't actually make a point outside of "people should all die because I'm Chaotic Neutral". Which is both a non sequitur and, as I said at first, very unhealthy.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 1 points 19 hours ago

Very casual, this is.