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This is literally what YouTube is like though. The less educational content is, the more likely they are to remove or age restrict it. NileGreen made a video about this recently, it's kinda long but you can watch it if this sounds interesting.
1984 is more appropriate for adolescents than for kids under tweens. If anyone has read the ending, the imagery in Room 101 is pretty graphic. There are also sexually suggestive imagery in the middle of the book.
The best dystopian book for kids that warns of authoritarianism would be Fahrenheit 451 and Animal Farm imo. The latter was my introduction to George Orwell by my teacher just before I entered adolescence.
Tweens know what sex is. This is needlessly prudish. They all have seen graphic videos/images of people blown apart on the beaches of Normandy by this point.
I read The Giver in 4th grade, assigned reading mind you. Let’s unpack that one lmao
I did say 1984 is probably not apt for those under tween age. The cartoon post depicting the kids don't look like tweens. They look like seven or eight years old or maybe even younger.
My bad I missed the “under”
I don't follow american book ban list. Is it actually ban?
No but Huck Finn, To Kill a Mocking Bird, and other American literary classics are regularly banned/brought back across the US. They use justifications such as “coarse language” and other bullshit, but it’s almost always books that speak truth to power/about systemic bigotry in the US.
Wahou... I never knew ban/brought back book was commun in some place. That's wild.
Oh yeah it’s been a problem for a long time and it’s only gotten worse since all conservative fixation on libraries and CRT picked up.
I don't think it's currently on any ban lists in the US; if it is, it's just in a few odd corners. It has been on ban lists around the world in the past for various reasons.
https://pen.org/report/beyond-the-shelves/
Disproportionate to publishing rates and like prior school years, books in this prominent subset overwhelmingly include books with people and characters of color (44%) and books with LGBTQ+ people and characters (39%).
Over half (57%) of the banned titles in this subset include sex-related themes or depictions, due to ramped up attacks on “sexual content.”
Nearly 60% of these banned titles are written for young adult audiences, and depict topics young people confront in the real world, including grief and death, experiences with substance abuse, suicide, depression and mental health concerns, and sexual violence.
If you pick around for schools with bans, you can occasionally find 1984 on the list. But that is primarily because of the extramarital sex scene between Wilson Smith (the protagonist) and his lover Julia.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Any librarian worth their salt would find a secret way to get that kid his book
I watched the library in my high school downsized repeatedly during and after my time in school.
They went from half a dozen librarians to one. They purged their collections of microfilm and whittled away any research tools that weren't just on a computer. They stopped ordering new books for the most part by the time my sister graduated.
I believe they've since renovated the space to convert a big chunk of it into more classrooms.
Just buy a tesla and a smartphone. Those are the spy machines described in the book. The difference is that the 1984 government had to hide that stuff in your house and now, people even pay for them.
The 1984 government did not hide that stuff in your hozse. The telescreens are the centerpiece of any appartements. The difference is that in the book, everybody knows they are supervised and fear the supervisors, while today, nobody cares.
everybody knows they are supervised and fear the supervisors
They regularly saw friends and neighbors persecuted by police. We don't really see that in the modern day. There's no cop who bangs on your door because you did a wrongthink online.
That'll be next week in the U.S.
They regularly saw friends and neighbors persecuted by police. We don’t really see that in the modern day.
Maybe you don't...
The UK CPS would like a word with you concerning your problematic online speech....
Every big tech company has bent the knee to trump. While I don't find it likely that widespread crackdown would happen because someone shit talked cheeto Hitler, it's not beyond the realm of possibilities. At the very least, it's more plausible that he might use connections to dig up dirt on political enemies.
It's never about the kids
Some really do think it is. And I feel sorry for them. My ex-wife's mother was one that put her in one of those teenage camps. Convinced they were what could help her by the church and her friends. But she's just not smart. Very gullible. I really don't think she would have had she known. The zeitgeist of the times were not as abundant as it is now.
Is 1984 banned? That was mandatory reading...
It and Fahrenheit 451 are, ironically, among some of the most banned books in the US.
1984, Fahrenheit 451, To kill a mockingbird and several others were among the banned books in my school.
Ironically tho, Mein Kampf was still sitting proudly on the shelf. Of a middle school library...
That's funny, they were both required reading where I am in the U.S.
It was banned in both the Soviet Union and the US.
In the Soviet Union it was banned for being anti-communist.
In the US it was banned for being communist.
Orwell was trolling before it even existed lmao
Nah he was just anti-authoritarian and both the US and USSR governments saw themselves reflected in the text
lmao, yeah thats why i love his books.
its crazy to me how people will read it and not realize the main point was anti authoritarianism/totalitarianism, and think it was about socialism despite orwell himself being a democratic socialist. Most be up in the list of most misinterpreted writers
It comes down to framing. You put Animal Farm (unapologetically anti-Soviet Union) and 1984 (more broadly anti-authoritarian) on the required reading list for high schools. You haven't provided any education around Marxist theory anywhere in the curriculum besides "communism bad". That lets you transfer the idea that the USSR is representative of all leftist thought, and these books are about the USSR. Breeze over all the stuff in 1984 that points to any kind of leftist theory--which Orwell helps with because he expects people to get bored and skip that whole bit--and boom, Orwell becomes an anti-leftist icon.
If Homage to Catalonia were also added to the curriculum, this whole farce would be torn down.
True. without much context other than knowing animal farm was written against the soviet union for example, it's easy to think that.
Orwell becomes an anti-leftist icon.
Honestly this is a really interesting phenomenon, where very famous figures being leftist/socialist is conveniently left out. MLK, Einstein, Orwell, Picasso, Nelson Mandela. They were all socialists yet that is not taught.
On Elon Musk's X, animal abuse is the safe content.
Literally 1984