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The US is actually going to implement a nationwide abortion ban and the measures for how it's gonna be handled are already in the works (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by A_A@lemmy.world to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24607393

credit for this post to :
@denimaww@lemmy.world

The US is actually going to implement a nationwide abortion ban and the measures for how it's going to be handled are already in the works. This bill, which I link to here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/7/text , seems ok at first glance and only seems to want to implement nationwide healthcare centers for women. But when you actually look at what these Pro Women's Healthcare Centers are and mean to offer, it becomes really clear what's going on.

On the first page of the PDF or booklet that appear when you search for the healthcare centers it is clear that they are supported by pro-life organisations and hold extreme pro-life values. And when you read the (very short) booklet it states their values and services that are to be provided. Among them is a requirement for "Abortion Pill Reversal" and encouragement for "Sterilization Reversal". The last page clearly states their values, where among them it states that:

"Abortion is not women's healthcare, because of the damage it causes to women's physical and emotional health and the destruction of unborn life, many of whom are females. Abortion is usually something women turn to when they feel they do not have another choice. This is a tragedy and the opposite of choice and empowerment."

And it goes on to list similiar values. The bill to implement these healthcare centers states that:

"That the House of Representatives—

(1) expresses its support for women nationwide to have access to comprehensive, convenient, compassionate, life-affirming, high-quality health care; and

(2) recognizes the high standards established by Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers consortium as standards worth implementing nationwide."

This means that the values that these Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers have are to be set as standards nationwide.

A link to the PDF/booklet about the Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers (PWHC): https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/PWHC-Booklet.pdf

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[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

For anyone that needs this information, you can (currently) order abortion medicine online in any state. I did it today and it was stupid easy to do. I'm not pregnant, but I wanted to order some as a just-in-case for myself or others.

The Plan C website has a great list of websites you can order from if you're not pregnant. It costs about $150 and some offer financial assistance if you need it. But please do it NOW.

I ordered one from Aid access and one from safe choice. Both asked a few questions that didn't ask for personal information or ID. They mostly just need an email, address to send it, and a credit/debit card to pay.

Good luck out there everyone.

Edit: just to clarify I'm not talking about plan B. I'm talking about medication meant to induce an abortion at up to 13 weeks of gestation. mifepristone and misoprostol specifically.

[–] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Do you happen to know the shelf-life of the medicine? Thank you so much for that resource. Likewise, I don’t need it, but I’d like to be a help to others who may find themselves in a difficult situation.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

fact sheet for Plan B One-Step says the medicine expires after four years

Interesting coincidence

https://www.health.com/news/does-plan-b-expire

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

According to multiple sites, both pills in the prescription have a 2 year shelf life if kept in a cool dry place.

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not an answer, but the Army found that pills (non liquid gel caps) were often stable for quite a long time with only minor efficacy loss.

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[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Costco pharmacy near me was selling levonorgestrel emergency contraceptive for $6/dose as of a couple weeks ago.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, if a nation wants to fight a big war within 15 years, first they need to grow soldiers, right?

if they ban abortion and then set up a pipeline from orphanages to army then you get a lot of jackboots in 15ish years

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think the US flights ground wars. We're more about drones now. I'm thinking this is cheap labor for the farms once we kick out the foreigners.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Every war has had boots on the ground. Drones don't really change the need to occupy space.

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[–] Tot@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

"abortion pill reversal" sounded like bullshit to me, so I looked it up.

Here's what ACOG has to say: Facts Are Important: Medication Abortion "Reversal" Is Not Supported by Science

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 67 points 1 day ago (55 children)

yes. elections have consequences. republicans haven't been coy about wanted to outlaw abortion nationwide at the federal level. enough democrats didn't vote in the last election (mostly young people for whom these bans will effect the most, and cause the most harm) to ensure republicans now control ever branch of united states government, the legislative (both house of congress), the judicial (doj and the supreme court), and executive (the presidency). that's a clean sweep, and a wide pipe for the monsters to do just about anything they want to. congratulations.

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[–] dx1@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

House resolutions aren't binding law. They may want to ban abortion, they may try in the next 4 years, but this is not what that is.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

pro-women, pro-women, pro+women!

Pro-life

[–] Aquila@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

accidentally takes abortion reversal pill

gets pregnant

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[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is not hippocratic or woman centred and you said tremendous twice within ten words you crazy sods.

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[–] A_A@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

credit for this post to : @denimaww@lemmy.world

Hi Denimaww,

i saw that you made the above post into the "politics" community which has rules preventing posting anything that is not based on a newspaper article. This must be why it was removed in that community and which is why i recuperated your post and gave you credit in this community here. Also, i see that you are new to Lemmy and i wish to welcome you here. This sites' learning curve could be a bit steep. Please don't hesitate to ask for advice.

Take care 😌

[–] Blaze@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nice welcoming comment

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

i'm quite proud of that and to having saved the (vast, detailed, artful) post just in time by :
First - - guessing that it would be deleted from the "politics" community and
Second - - to have hit the cross-posting button just in time (in the locally opened post copy on my device)

i do believe that, in a future implementation of Lemmy, it would be nice if moderators could unlink a post from a community instead of deleting it. So the original poster could re_link the post to another community instead of wasting their efforts.

[–] denimaww@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see, thank you for taking the time to explain this to me! Do you know a community where I could post this instead? Like you said, I am new to Lemmy and I really wanted to spread awareness about this. Thanks in advance!!

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i say this is your post : i gave you credit in the header and i invite you to take ownership by responding, at your convenience, to any top comment in this post. For each, if anyone doubt that you have ownership, i would come up with a comment to tell them that you are really the OP (original poster). To achieve this, you can call me (or any users) to a thread of comments by puting my username inside a comment ( ... @A_A@lemmy.world ... )

You wanted to spread awareness and your post here got 300 upvotes until now. This is excellent in term of Lemmy viewership. You also got plenty of comments : if you want to go through those, i believe you got beautiful impact. (do not give too much credit to negative comments as there always be those for anyone on any subjects)

The choice of a community for posting is an art that one develops by using Lemmy. But, a first step is to read (in one community that you target) what are its rules for posting in there.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if only the government had an 'efficiency' expert on staff.. one would expect their evaluation of this proposal to be something like this:

we already have a long-time, trusted nationwide network of health care clinics.. for women (and men).. that provides reproductive care (and more). absolutely no sense in reinventing the wheel, when this one has been going for 108 years. the easiest, cheapest, and most efficient thing to do would be to toss them some federal funds every year, let them provide the care that's needed--where it's needed, and stay the fuck out of the exam room and out of their way.

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