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Musk:

-supposedly has autism

-autistic people sometimes make weird faux paus

To me, it looks like it's clearly a Hitler salute and the logical conclusion is he's a white supremacist. But I am just wondering if everyone else sees this that way with no room for it being a result of autism and definitely that.

Is there any possibility it could have been accidental? Or was he doing a Hitler salute, then "oh it was an accident" (wink) sort of thing? Did he apologize?

Lots of people on lemmy are really smart so I'm interested to read what people think.

The whole thing makes me really uncomfortable with buying from companies that have x profiles. I just don't see how that coukd be accidental and it seems like no one cares.

There was this period before WWII when stuff started happening to reduce the rights of minorities, but they weren't being killed blatantly. Is this where we are? I feel more scared to be in America now.

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Musk is playing agent provocateur. He knows exactly who is offending. He knows how he will deny it and planted seeds of doubt to make his case. It's a show of might. Elon gets off on the fact that he knows what his extreme wealth allows him to get away with but is offended at the same time that anyone might question his absolute power. In classic fascist fashion he will now insist himself, an extremely powerful and wealthy person immune to any law of any nation, is the victim here.

This type of behavior erodes at any good will people might like to inject into the political environment and keeps every one fighting each other rather then the obvious source of all the vitriol.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Honesty here. The autistic argument is really offensive to people with autism, I asked a friend with high functioning autism about his opinion. It mistreats the condition to transform it into a political scapegoat. It misrepresents what autism is. Elon is not autistic, he's is just a narcissist and always high on ketamine. I've met dozens of autistic persons, and not even once has anyone ever done the Nazi salute on accident, not even on highly euphoric social events. To suggest the autistic apology makes the person mentioning it sound awfully ableist and like an asshole. I suggest you don't ever mention it out loud to anyone ever again. It's insidious and dehumanizing against people with cognitive issues.

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

We're talking about a man who has obviously fascist politics. Pretty much anyone knows not to do a nazi salute in front of millions of people, and he did it twice. Besides, if it somehow were an accident, he'd have immediately apologised.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 days ago

It's not an autism thing. The people saying that are deflecting. Autistic people don't throw practiced Hitler salutes as a stim.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Absolutely zero. The man is an out and proud Nazi who has openly said and supported anti-semitic shit on his Twitter. If any accident occurred, it is that he accidentally did it out loud and on camera, instead of the privacy of his own home.

You are also very correct, we are going through the opening beats that Nazi Germany went through. Klan members are sending out flyers in Kentucky, ICE agents are threatening to raid Democrat cities, and "deportation facilities" are being planned for construction in Texas. We have passed all the warning signs; it is happening here now.

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I can imagine him practicing in the mirror for hours to get exactly the right arm motion for a Nazi salute that is imperfect by just enough that some people will contemplate the possibility that it wasn't one.

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, it's possible, but he's a spoiled right wing idiot edge lord, so I'd take it at face value.

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[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Watch it again. It seems there is a split second hesitation before the first salute. Followed by a "let's just get that done full force" move. Kinda like people that are about to do a stunt the first time. One last "are we really going to try that?". It kinda implies intent and also that there is some sanity left there to make these decisions. Which gives me hope it's just Putin having a video of him and he is acting under duress. So definitively an intentional Nazi salute. Should try that in Germany and see how fast he gets arrested for that shit.

[–] DangedIfYouDid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

This a detail I haven't seen many others pick up on. The guy hyped himself up on doing it, then went for it with gusto.

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago
[–] guy@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

The main issue is that his heil combined with his previously expressed opinions and actions removes all doubt

[–] Atin@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

He absolutely knew what he was doing. His fans thought we were being hyperbolic when we said he was a fascist a decade ago. His fans are idiots

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