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    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

    Just fucking putting data into json files in a folder is so much easier than databases. Sure, databases are faster and give you access to powerful SQL queries. But if you're just making something small and simple, you don't need those things. Save yourself the hassle and just use the filesystem.

    Or use minio/s3, which can either be the best or the worst of both worlds depending on your usecase.

    [–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    The trouble is, filesystems don't have ACID. The first time you have a power loss during a write, your data will get corrupted.

    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

    Hmm that's a valid criticism, thanks for pointing it out

    [–] a2part2@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago

    Duckdb can query them with SQL like they are in a database. Csv, tsv, parquet also. You can even connect to and query postures and cloud storage also

    [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    It also makes you re-implement a database, but worse.

    Use a JSON file if you just need to serialize/deserialize some data. Use SQLite or a DB server if you need more. Your own code will never match the quality of SQLite.

    [–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago

    Sqlite is the best in most cases

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago

    Didn't someone actually try making SQL as a filesystem and it ended up being something like 50 times slower than ZFS after they applied a ton of optimizations?

    Not as a serious project, but more like a joke to see what would actually happen.

    [–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    They’re more like blob storage.

    Blob storage usually uses a FS back end so it’s more like blob storage is like a file system

    [–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 28 points 1 day ago

    git repo is blockchain

    [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 20 points 23 hours ago

    You're right! Ill just store all this data as static json files in a directory then

    [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    and anuses are vaginas, as long as you treat them as one.

    [–] coacoamelky@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

    As a man of science I prefer to test every theory.

    [–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    the anus isnt self lubricating :(

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

    It can be if you're lactose intolerant.

    [–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 10 points 17 hours ago

    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/24784-anus-function

    Muscles, nerves and mucous membranes in your anus

    It is though...

    [–] TheBat@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    For example, a directory full of spreadsheets.

    Somewhere, a sysadmin is pulling his hair out

    [–] fnrir@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

    or CSV files

    [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    Tbh still preferred to that asshat who rolls out an MS Access "app"

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

    *starts rocking back and forth in chair

    [–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    If file systems are databases, then does that mean storing a sqlite db on a HDD is database inception?

    [–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    everything is a file including a filesystem*

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    * including databases

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 46 points 1 day ago (8 children)
    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    How do you post from mastodon to lemmy?

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

    @mogoh I just mentioned the group and it worked!

    The way it's supposed to be!

    I'm so happy for this omfgrotflolcopter

    @linuxmemes

    [–] lukewarm_ozone@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

    Oh, that's really cool. I hope there's more linkage between the twitter-like and reddit-like islands of the fediverse in the future; I'm somewhat interested in reading the former but it seems to be complicated to actually get federation with it.

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    [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 day ago

    Federation.

    Wait till you get a comment from threads. I've only had it happen once and it made me feel dirty.

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    That's less the Unix way and more the BeOS way.

    [–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    And files are streams. 🎡 Islands in the stream. 🎡

    [–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago

    🎡 That is what we awk 🎡

    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    welcome to lemmy im new also

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    wtf how do you mix between lemmy and mastdon i also have account there but i didn't thought that the content will be here also so please explain

    [–] drq@mastodon.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    @mugdad1 I don't mix, I'm on Mastodon. I just mentioned @linuxmemes in op-post et voila! Neat, huh?

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    That's what federation is all about.

    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

    ok tried mentioning my self their it worked i didn"t knew about that yes i wondered how they are mixed sometimes thanks man

    [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

    Welcome to the lovely world of the Fediverse! Mastodon and Lemmy, among many other kinds of software, both run on ActivityPub. This means that even if the servers aren't both running Lemmy or Mastodon, they still speak the same language and can therefore understand the content of each other's posts (think of it as email, gmail.com can still send and receive mail to outlook.com). Other examples of AcitvityPub software are Misskey, Mbin, Friendica, Pixelfed, Loops, Piefed, PeerTube and many others that I haven't learned about yet. While they theoretically can all fetch and present posts from each other, due to the choices that each developer makes while designing their software, it might not be very possible to get every post from every software. For example, Mastodon is all about following people, and Lemmy about following communities. Even though Mastodon is able to follow Lemmy communities, Lemmy has (as of writing) no function to follow people (yet).

    [–] mugdad1@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago

    man i wanna be your frind what an amazing explainition you rock πŸ₯°πŸ₯°πŸ₯° i understood everything thanks also i got pixelfiled and mastodon and lemmy and i saw the connection thanks i posted in mastodon can you please go there and see it @mugdad1@mastodon.social

    [–] addie@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

    Filesystem-as-a-db is why MongoDB is webscale. You just turn it on and it scales right up.

    [–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Every Homestuck fan already knows this.

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    [–] foxido@social.cutie.team 8 points 1 day ago
    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Honestly that's basically what CephFS is

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    [–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

    And the worst FAT32

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