Hell yeah, let's make it happen, folks!
this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2025
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You could always just copy the old 196 rules. They work pretty well.
I wrote these rules for a venting room on the blåhaj matrix, perhaps they could be of some inspiration here. A venting room on a different medium will have very different needs of course from a community like this.
Rules
User rules
- Assume others have good intentions. Strive to keep this a safe space to vent.
- Tangents are allowed, but the primary purpose of the room is venting.
- Don't respond to vents if the venter does not wish to be interacted with. You can mark a vent with /dni to signify this.
- Keep mature vents in 18+ rooms if possible. Use https://trggr.link/ if such rooms are unavailable.
- Censor/spoiler sensitive issues and provide content warnings as appropriate. https://trggr.link/ is an excellent way to censor something. Some clients support surrounding text in || on either side of it to censor it like this: ||spoilered text||. Some clients may have a spoiler command: /spoiler spoilered text.
Issues you probably should spoiler: Slurs, racism, ableism, bigotry, suicide, self harm, abuse, drug/alcohol abuse, blood and gore.
Moderator rules
- Use a gentle hand, don't reprimand!
- Assume good intentions.
- When moderating, use DMs or moderator rooms for anything beyond single-comment moderation and for anything serious.
- Don't leave moderated users in the dark regarding issues they are directly involved in.
- Warn, then kick, then temp-ban, then perma-ban (avoid), in that order, when dealing with non-compliant users and serious infractions. Skip steps if necessary for larger infractions.
- Users may appeal your decisions and some arguing should be tolerated. Attempt to deescalate when this happens. Harassing you however is never okay.
- If you feel yourself become angry at or get a bad relationship with a user you are moderating then pass on the issue to another mod if they are available.
- Take care of yourself. You are moderating voluntarily after all.
Proper guidelines for moderators is probably key, and then for users a quick summary of the purpose of the community is important, followed by any additions to the instance rules.
Assume others have good intentions.
Solid approach! Not naming names, but let's just say some people and groups assume everyone is out to get them and moderate accordingly.
That one is especially important in a venting room, perhaps not as necessary in lemmy communities.
It's true that mods should be careful and assume good intent when reasonable, however care should also be taken to not allow concern trolling and sealioning. I think a good approach there is a warning (preferably in the form of a gentle reminder that their comment can be misinterpreted) for suspected cases of concern trolling and sealioning and removing the offending comment if necessary, followed by a temp ban if the user continues.
Rarely, people sealion or parrot bigoted points without knowing better. Giving room for people to learn is important, but so is not getting run over by actual trolls
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I would be happy to help mod, I modded some stuff on the old site.
Regardless, here's what I'd like to see out of the moderation here:
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I fully agree with your points on moderation, but I think it's important to add to #1 that no major decisions should be made by the mods, even if all of them are in agreement. They should be discussed with the community.
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Semi-regular "ask the mods" post (or just one that's stickied). Basically if anyone disagrees with or has questions about a mod action, they can comment there and the mods pledge to answer any question.
I'll mod a few things. If interested send me a message
I have a few ~~suckers~~ really nice people who volunteered for modding along with me.
r those the people I mentioned in my post or r there even more?
I didn't think this would take off!
yeh the community has been specially active today to make sure the new 196 grows apparently X3 I knew thatd happen the moment I saw the migration post in the old 196 tho, I love this community :3
r those the people I mentioned in my post or r there even more?
Yep, yours and more. I'm vetting people that chimed in and am pretty sure my wife thinks I've finally gone mad.
Hello, i wouldn't mind modding 196 along with you all. However i am not trans, so i may not be the best choice.
In any way, thanks for creating this and good luck with it 🤠
Can a rule be "fuck spez"?
Oh wait, we don't need something so obvious.:-)
Subbed!
Is there something to know about the "old" 196?
Sorry I'm out of the loop.
Alright, thanks for the behind the scenes!
I'll chug along :-)
The mods are mad that Ada bans people that break the site-wide rules without first consulting them and want to move somewhere where they can moderate as they please, so, they're moving (and attempting to take the community with them) to .World
That was my read of the situation anyways.
they migrated to lemmy.world which a lot of people took issue with because the old 196 here on LBZ was one of the biggest non-LW communities (maybe the biggest non-LW community I'm not sure)
Thanks! So That's why the memes on going big and moving to .world, okay!
More questions what is LW in this context?
Thank you!
LW is short for lemmy.world
A lot of people (myself included) have had bad experiences with world. It’s the biggest server when you join lemmy so not knowing better a lot of normie people join it and they tend to have shitty takes, and those shitty takes are backed up by even shittier mods and admins. I ended up getting banned from world on my original account for not being a democrat simp (specifically - bought out by the insurance industry owned democrat senator joe Lieberman of insurance industry owned Connecticut single-handedly tanked the single payer option of Obamacare when it was being passed.) They allow fascists to comment and ban people who hold them accountable. And god forbid you shit talk the democrats from the left…
The original blahaj 196 was a queer space run off a queer server… moving it to world is just going to invite harassment against much of the queer community. World is not friendly to queer people. They do not understand how lived experience as a marginalized person makes one not play nice with fascists, and like typical liberals they hold being polite, respectful and agreeable above all. Well I’m not polite, respectful or agreeable to people who would want me dead.
Fuck lieberman into the ground for his bullshit, but he was only the last issue with single payer happening.
Obama fucked uo by negotiating with the GOP for a full year, only to get 0 votes.
Ted Kennedy fucked it up by dying in that year, which allows the the state of Massachusetts to really fuck up by electing the GOP Senator version of truck nuts, Scott brown. That shitfuck was elected in 2010 to fill the seat till the next full term, and then lost in 2012. Massachusetts elected a GOP senator for 2 out of something like 50 years, just long enough for him to vote no on single payer. Massholes deserve a hearty fuck you for that.
That's what made which made the shitheal Lieberman the swing vote. Also, to split hairs, he was an independent that caucused eith Democrats at time time, but basically literally a DINO.
The GOP still fucked us out of single payer, but thats to be expected. Dems just fucking stumps all along the fucking way let it happen.
It’s amazing what the dems “let happen” and even more amazing that despite all of their weaponize incompetence people somehow still think they are “less evil” when failure is the point so they can fundraise off it.
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Thank you for the lore, I was so confused as to why I couldn't comment on 196@LBZ, and why there was now 196@LW and a onehundredninetysix@LBZ.
I keep saying we need our version of r/subredditdrama 😭😭
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Thank you and yes I wondered what was happening, 196 & blahaj was good together I thought. I have an account on world mostly because my own server lemmy.mindoki.com had problems and now I have all notes on the fachos & tankies & other idiots there but I should probably use my valmond@lemmy.mindoki instead. Or loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com which is my queer and art and admin person. I'm not very good at all this.
Thanks for the info and yes fuck all the fachos and terfs and other violent people ot there!
The world could have been a so much better place without them.
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Lemmy.World, and LBZ is Lemmy.Blahaj.Zone :3
Oh yes of course, I'm an idiot 😅 thank you!
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I'm willing to help with moderation if needed
Lyndon Baines Johnson?
Oh no... Fixed it! Thanks, I think my keyboard's text correction "helped" me.
if i have any feedback then i would say that we need some proper rules in place, yeah we can just default to the instance rules but i think having some solid set of rules for moderators and users alike to follow would be a good idea. if you need help modding im interested.
Nice post
Hello, drag will volunteer. Drag can confidently say drag is a very diverse voice, and isn't worried about policing other people for any personal agenda. Drag didn't like c/196 because the mods there thought they should ban people for advocating violence against Nazis. Drag would like to help build a community where those left wing viewpoints are more accepted. And don't worry, drag has no desire to silence conflicting viewpoints. Just to create a space where everyone can shitpost safely. Drag can say sorry, too.
Drag is going to post a meme to the community now.