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I don't know if I'm going crazy but looking at the current situation in the world ... please tell me that I'm overexagurating

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[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I think it has already started. It just hasn't consolidated yet.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I highly doubt that WWIII will happen (within the next few years), however I forsee the next several years to not be peacful. There will be several (regional/civil) despites that will most likley occur and the chances of any of them escalating is highly unlikley. Here are the conflicts I forsee:

  • Continued Syrian Civil War: wont be pretty but escalation is unlikely
  • Palestinian occupation: Will absolutely continue to be horrific but none of the neighboring Arab counties care enough to escalate (or risk US aid)
  • Russia/Ukraine war: Russia will get some territory and thats about it, probrally just the Russian majority areas. After that the EU will intimidate Russia to back off.
  • India/China border dispute: They'll make a lot of noise, actural fighting is unlikely
  • US/Canada/Mexico/Greenland conflict: Who knows tbh, most likley Trump is running off his mouth as always
  • China/Taiwan: I severly doubt it, in addition the US is moving microchip manufacturing to the US so strategic value may loosen

Worst case scenario here is a full blown war between the EU and Russia, the US likley wont get involved (Trump doesnt care about Europe) and neither will China (both counties might send aid respectively). It would probrally end with Russia surrendering followed by them loosing no land and maybe a regime change plus some political reforms.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 days ago

Russia/Ukraine war: Russia will get some territory and thats about it, probrally just the Russian majority areas. After that the EU will intimidate Russia to back off.

This is one may cool down. Definitely would not have under Harris. This is the big ww3 fear.

India/China border dispute: They’ll make a lot of noise, actural fighting is unlikely

They have resolved their territorial dispute, or at least made a major agreement that mostly resolves it.

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You never really know, it's plausible. But I doubt it. It doesn't seem any more likely now than it did in 2016.

Ceasefire in Gaza for a minimum of 6 weeks (if I understood the news correctly) is huge. That conflict might be close to over if we're lucky.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

What is "over" to you?

It’ll take longer than 2 years. It’ll take a decade.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

No but there will be wars.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Current circumstances do seem worrisome. But, we've been threatened with that for all my life, and even decades before I was born. So who knows. MAD is a certain thing and I don't think entire countries are unstable enough to let that happen. I'm not really sure what Putin is getting at threatening all of Europe. The situation with China and Taiwan doesn't look good, with the US pledge of taking Taiwan's side for independence.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My vibes based analysis says atleast in the next ten years

[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t expect it, but I don’t rule it out either.

Just a warning for everyone who isn’t worried: you expect that the leaders of the world act logically and like adults. That might be a mistake.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Actually I don't expect them to act logically or "adult", whatever you mean by that. Adulthood doesn't mean anything.

But that they don't act like that is exactly why I think there won't be any world scale wars.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We already are, just in a smaller scale than ww1 and 2

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In the previous world wars there were various alliances between many countries, but eventually two sides emerged. If you see two clear sides engaging in active warfare against each other, you'll know that WW3 has started. At the moment, it's a bit more complicated than that. Seems to me that there are a bunch of disconnected conflicts going on, but the big picture of a proper world war hasn't really emerged yet.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I see two clear sides engaging in numerous proxy wars with eachother at the very least. I wouldn't call it comparable to either world wars yet but it puts me on my toes

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[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

No I really don't I see water wars and cold war style espionage but no WW2 style conflict. But I also think we will have Societal collapse by 2030 due to climate change and being unable to grow food. Honestly after Cheeto got reelected I have just gone numb to all the of it. I am savoring each day.

I hug my love ones just a little longer than I used to. I write a log of each day to I remember it a little better. I have made a bucket list and I'm trying to check off as much as possible. But even with all that I sometimes catch myself mourning the earth. Also it's good to video your love ones it's awkward but it will be nice to hear their voice when you can't anymore.

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[–] BJHanssen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Nah we’re speedrunning the 20s currently, so it’ll probably be another ten, fifteen years or so.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Many will say that World War Three cannot happen, that nuclear weapons will prevent it. However, this assumes that World War Three has to be global thermonuclear war, rather than some repeat of the previous world wars.

Cities don't have to be leveled for nations to fight a world war. The US fought two world wars, and we never had our cities and infrastructure decimated. What I can imagine is a future world war where all the major players fight the war in the same way the US fought the two previous wars. Both sides contribute massive resources, adopt wartime economies, throw their whole populations behind the effort etc, but at no point do the various combatants directly attack the main territory and population centers of the other side. You could have a conflict where both sides lost millions of troops fighting it out in some third party territory, but the nukes never fly as all sides realize that invading the home territory of the others is suicide.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Proxy wars. You just described proxy wars. Ukraine is one of them.

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[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee -2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Hope so, it's long past time for a reboot.

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[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago

Thankfully nukes exist = (war on a big enough scale = mutual destruction (the people in power want to keep their position))

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