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I don't know if I'm going crazy but looking at the current situation in the world ... please tell me that I'm overexagurating

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

There are bad things happening in the world, conflicts, ecological disasters, economic upheavels, and political upheavals. It's easy to look at these bad things and assume things are much worse than they are. Nobody wants there to be a world war 3.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago

When Trump was elected again I spent about 3 weeks living with an existential dread I've never in my life felt before.

Whenever it happens, it is coming.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

1 to 2 years no. Next decade sure. The super powers are isolating themselves as their economies become less entwined I expect something to happen.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

WW3 began in 2022

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe next decade, doubt it will be the next 2 years.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I assume the time span was because of a certain penis potato. Sorry, I mean dictator.

[–] guy@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You are probably overexaggerating.
There are increased conflicts over the world but no signs of a world war.

First there are no willing candidates for it. Not even Russia which is engaged in a war is willing to make the push to engage NATO, which is the closest to a world war we would get.
Neither is Iran willing to go into war which was very obvious after their actions when Israel made ample opportunities for them to escalate conflict.
And for China.. well war is bad for business, and China really likes doing business.

However the US with Trump at the helm. 🀷 Who the fuck knows. Maybe not world war but I am adding military occupation of Panama and Greenland to my bingo just in case.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think so.

Primarily because there's not economic benefit in it for the ruling class.

Also, we've made the experience of the war in the middle east around 2000 where the USA couldn't even occupy a farmer's state for more than a couple years.

I don't think anybody realistically thinks they can take over another (big) country in this time.

[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Primarily because there’s not economic benefit in it for the ruling class.

Our history of perpetual war seems to disprove this

[–] con_fig@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago

Famously the same was said about WWI re the economic benefit.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 95 points 2 days ago (5 children)

please tell me that I’m overexagurating

You're overexaggerating.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

this person needs to tell us what about the "current situation" they think is so bad before we can assess how mentally diverse they are

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Could already be going. We didn't name them World War 1 and World War 2 until after they were over

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[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 day ago

...i think the early stages will be fuzzy over the next four years but the `states will be fully engaged within six...

Nah, there won't be WW3. Instead we get countries sabotaging each other via hacking critical infrastructure, proxy wars, propaganda, trade wars.

I doubt there will ever be a direct "hot war" between the top five nuclear powers ever again.

WW3 is not what's gonna kill people, climate change is more likely gonna be humanity's downfall.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

No thanks. Appreciate the offer though, very kind of you.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I am personally looking for a few things that will concern me about escalation:

  • Japan and Finland making active land claims to Russia (actively reoccupying disputed land with troops)

  • Europe putting peace keepers in Western Ukraine (which will create a casus belli for war with Russia), specifically France and the UK. I mean, Poland as well, but if Poland says they are putting peacekeeping troops in Ukraine, Russia should either back off or assume war.

  • South Korean troops in Ukraine. (Ridiculous given their current chaos, but stranger things have happened in the last year).

Other than that, the russian frog has been very well boiled for 3 years. Even China has probably gone back to the drawing board on a taiwan invasion, and added a delay until 10 millions drones are available.

I do have concerns trump will pull the us back in europe, making the second item above possible if not likely. The first trump presidency shook us primacy in europe, and the second may see it start to unravel. If europe has to take russia alone, the us should consider china a personal problem from now on (as well as any other concerns not near europe), as no one will see value in going to war with a fair-weather ally.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

Can you link me to more information about there being south korean troops in ukraine? I knew about the north korean troops.

[–] guy@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Finland making active land claims to Russia (actively reoccupying disputed land with troops)

I can guarantee you that there is no territory the Finns would try to reclaim from Russia. The Continuation war pretty much sated any future thought to regain territory seized by the Soviet Union

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Just in case: You can quote like this:

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[–] guy@piefed.social 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You can also make italics by surrounding something with underscores.

_example_ gives you example

[–] guy@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago
[–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Finland won't make any claims. This much is certain.

The only way we would even consider restoring the stolen lands would be IF the Russian Federation falls and IF the initiative for reunification would come from the Karelian Republic.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with both of you in principle, but who really had N Korea troops in meat wave assaults on their 2024 bingo cards?

[–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago

That was pretty wild development, yes. But still, we will not make any territorial claims. Doing so would effectively render the protection provided by NATO's Article 5 null. We would once again be alone against a nuclear power with much larger resources than we could ever have.

So we won't be doing that.

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