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Canada is preparing to retaliate against Donald Trump’s proposed 25% tariffs on Canadian imports, which could trigger the largest trade war between the nations in decades.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau promised counter-tariffs worth $37 billion, with potential for further measures, depending on Trump’s final order.

Canadian officials warn the tariffs could harm both economies, disrupting key sectors like automotive, energy, and agriculture.

Labor leaders expressed concerns over job losses and urged collaboration. Canada hopes to avoid tariffs by highlighting their mutual economic impact to U.S. lawmakers.

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[–] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago
[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (29 children)

Watching the US dollar

Grabs popcorn

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I hope I live long enough to see the petrodollar die.

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[–] TimboSlice 76 points 1 day ago (6 children)

As an American surrounded by trump voting douchebags, I hope the economy crashes and people get a taste of what voting like a retard feels like.

[–] yogsototh@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago

when you have a certain world vue your frame of reference is this one. And you will prefer to hide reality for a very long time before admitting you made a poor decision. Worse admitting your point of view is not moral, or problematic.

All of this to say, people will not make a direct correlation between facts and their acts. They will find another plausible (for them) explanation.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 22 points 1 day ago (15 children)
[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Indeed and the BS, from the Orange Stain, are orders from Moscow to divide NATO and US allies.

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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I've said this before, the EU should just invite Canada into the Union.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

The Canadians can take the Blue States with them to the EU.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nice idea, but it’s not a good thing to distance yourself from your closest trading partner…just ask the U.K.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm.not saying Canada has to take the offer, just that it's something that should be on the table for trump to chew on.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 4 points 22 hours ago

I see your stance now. Down with that mate.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Canada would have to switch to European standards instead of US ones. Their companies wouldn't be happy.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

How do Canadian companies like tariffs? Just saying, it's not impossible...

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I love long-discredited economic ideas making a comeback. As someone who studied Econ, it’s just peachy seeing people vote to be poorer because no one remembers the last 50 times this was tried and didn’t work.

Please, everyone read about the 1800s. I’m not completely hostile to crypto but so many crypto people are like, “What if we had a ‘free banking’ era? Surely, there’s no downside.” And you just slam your fist on the table and say “Please read one AP American history book. An actual textbook, not a YouTube video. I’m not a particle physicist because I watch PBS Space Time.”

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I think you're right, and all of this is a side effect of mortgage-level paywalling of such education, and subsequent devaluing and even demonizing of it.

Resources like AP textbooks don't just come up in peoples' feeds. So they're probably not even aware of them even if they were interested in the subject. And if they are, they gotta scrounge around eBay or those "library" sites.

Either way, it won't reach the people who need to hear it most.

YouTube's gotten really bad with commercial and ideological interests, but I do appreciate some creators out there making an effort to create digestible educational material.

But yes, the cryptobros phenomenon , or "DOGE" just being a re-vomit of failed Reagan/Thatcher-esque grifting policies, it's all being pitched as something brand new and never done before.

Thanks for highlighting that I should check out 1800's era "free banking" economics though. I'm really curious. :)

[–] Fashim@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could you give me a quick summation of why a free banking era is a bad thing and how it relates to the 1800s?

Not trying to start an argument, just genuinely curious

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So, essentially, every bank was issuing its own currency. But banks fail all the time. And no one knew what was real money. I’m saying this on Lemmy so I’m clearly for distributed things but cash money needs a central bank, for trust reasons. Gold is a stable element so it was that for centuries but it also led to horrible things. Like an entire hemisphere dying of smallpox.

So, long story short, after WWII. we settled on the U.S. dollar, which was then pegged to gold. Eventually, Nixon decided to unpeg it from gold. Which was fine because gold was arbitrary. We could have pegged it to any element on the periodic table. Bretton Woods is what to google to read more.

So, what is the dollar backed by now? Mostly the U.S. Navy and trust built over time. It’s not perfect. America has never defaulted on its debts and you can exchange dollars for local currency at any airport. The independence of the U.S. central bank is a big reason. But if you’re writing a contract for a global deal, you use dollars. If Argentina wants to buy something from Vietnam, the contract uses dollars.

In the 1800’s, there was no agreed upon currency. Banks made their own currencies. And it was a catastrophe.

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