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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Which country allows their citizens to openly speak about and protest said war crimes?

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Andrew Wimmer was handcuffed and taken to jail on January 22, 2003 because he refused to protest in a ""designated protest zone"" that was out of sight of the President as well as local and national TV news cameras.

A woman, armed with a ""We Love You Bush"" sign showed up at the same corner shortly after Wimmer's arrest. Wimmer asked the police if they were going to arrest her if she didn't move and they said, ""no."" The police also allegedly blocked the national press camera crews and an AP reporter from approaching the protest zone to do reporting.

https://www.aclu.org/documents/dissent-forced-be-out-sight-and-out-mind

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a far cry from how china suppresses protests. And really a small individual example. Overall there's a clear freedom of expression and civil protest in the US. The same absolutely cannot be said about china.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love how people just say this. Like you know lol

[–] HandBash@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Can you draw the chinese leader as Winnie the pooh in China without repercussions? I can do it to my leader where I'm at.

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago

Well the US doesn't. China is hard to say because it's not constantly at war

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (12 children)

China, but also the PRC hasn't been in a war in like 50+ years. Meanwhile the US killed a million innocent people in Iraq, and goes after whistleblowers like Assange, Snowden, and Manning for speaking out about its war crimes. And the Obama administration prosecuted a record number of whistleblowers, and had a zero tolerance policy towards them.

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[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Like, the Netherlands or something maybe?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

And the top comment on that video is defending the police, fascism has it’s hold in many places

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[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

¿Porque no los dos?

[–] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 4 points 2 days ago

It is not either or, folks. Both are bad for similar and different ways!

[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

Finally, a sane take

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