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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

That one is even more goatse looking than the N-Gage

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Nokia was the Casio of mobile phones. Sad it couldn't keep up with the smartphone era.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Nokia was purposely sabotaged by Stephen Elop.

Elop was a Microsoft employee who moved to Nokia to become their CEO.

Elop scrapped Meego as well as the rapidly-improving and highly promising Symbian OS that Nokia had, killed internal projects that used Android, and went all in on Windows Phone 7, a completely unproven platform that just happened to be from his ex employer.

After the market really didn't like that, Microsoft was able to buy Nokia for a bargain price ($4.6bn), and Elop was given a €18.8m bonus.

Curiosly, that bonus works out as €1 million for every €1 billion that was wiped off Nokia's market cap during his time as CEO. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence...

When he was asked for the good of the company to take a smaller bonus, Elop said that he couldn't.

After the deal to buy Nokia went through, Elop moved to a different cushty position within Microsoft.

Nokia didn't really fumble smartphones. They were purposely ran into the ground by Microsoft so they could use a powerful brand name as the the thing end of a wedge to take over the phone market, without having to pay much for it. Then Microsoft fumbled it from then on out.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago

Classic Microsoft. Never trust a Microsoft anything really.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They chose windows os over android. It was their downfall. The amazingly designed phones we could have had if they would have used Android instead... I miss my old Nokia phones, all of them but especially the 3310.

[–] Nugscree@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Windows OS was the better OS as the time, ran great on low spec hardware, and the tile system and integration of apps was a a lot better than anything Android or iOS has to offer at the time. The downfall was hardly any apps, changing the OS so much every update that the people that were developing left the eco-system because they where fed up of having to change their apps again, and hardly any first party apps. The promise that you could run Android apps on your Windows phone device was never delivered. Also Steve doubling down that he was too busy to use apps so why would you want them on your phone thing.

I still love my Lumia and turn in on from time to time

[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] donuts@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 27 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Reminds me of my old N-Gage

Taking phone calls on that thing was so strange. You had to hold it like you'd hold a sandwich.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

You hold your sandwiches like this? Weirdo…

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

The N-Gage had a bunch of bizarre design decisions.

The game cartridge slot was behind the battery - swapping games required disassembling the phone.

The revised QD version fixed a lot of the mistakes but it was too little too late by then.

[–] ToastySaff@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago

This creepy-ass liminal space mock-up of how one of their stores might look...

[–] quinceyBones@lemmy.zip 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nokia was cool when phones were fun.

[–] ToastySaff@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I especially like the alien design.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They released a crude version of the model in the thumbnail. It was the 5510.

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 6 points 9 hours ago

I had one in high school. The design was kinda gimmicky but the phone had good features for its time. it had an FM radio receiver, and I remember you could even transfer MP3 files onto it, although it was a hassle to do so.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Anddd now we have boring slab design, thanks Steve Apple.

But there are tries to make flip phones again with bendy screens - too fragile I think.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

The biggest problem with that is sadly the most functional design also happens to be the most boring.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, but that webpad genuinely seems way ahead of it's time. I want a webpad, and I'm 1000000% sure it's software is so out of date it would be like running windows 3.1 today.

Still though. How awesome does the webpad look?

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Nokia were doing insanely awesome things with their hardware, beyond basically building phones which were impervious to standard human idiocy (hi, I am an average human idiot).

[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago
[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Paywall, so I can't see the others, but the one on the thumbnail isn't that different to the N-Gage

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ToastySaff@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Thanks, was just going to post this. I've added the non-paywall link to the post.

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nokia were crazy back in the day but I think people may remember them a bit too fondly. I remember how whenever there was some new tech or idea they would absolutely trickle them out just to try and squeeze as much money out of you as possible. If there were two new pieces of tech they’d release two phones, with each of them having one of the new pieces of tech. Back in those days they just refused to make the absolute best phone possible. That’s one of the biggest changes that came from the iPhone.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You not think it could've been a cost saving measure too though and that putting the two new pieces of tech in one phone would've made it too expensive for anyone to buy

[–] RiceManatee@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 hours ago

As a Nokia Mobile Phones employee in the mid 2000s, I can confirm this was indeed the case. The US wouldn't pay over $100 for a handset, and Nokia was already losing money on hardware in the phone sale to have it subsidized by network providers. Nokia wanted to add tech and capability, but the high end stuff didn't sell at a profit and carriers wouldn't sell phones that were more expensive than their customers would pay. Apple was an exception due to marketing as "premium".

[–] jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 13 hours ago

Nokia Jaws was the best.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)