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I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of 'hitlerites'

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 35 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Hexbear, lemmygrad and (in great part) lemmy.ml are tankie instances.

They basically deny any crimes of Stalin, Mao etc…

[–] tht@social.pwned.page -3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I mean Mao greatly regretted his plans and was very sad they didnt work, he went onto become a vegan and grow his own food as to not get the food meant for the workers

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

"Anyone right of me is Hitler" sounds pretty on point for them. Instance block and move on with your day.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 23 points 14 hours ago

Wow, I was wondering why I hadn't blocked a single hexbear or lemmy.ml user here: my instance did it for me! I've had multiple accounts on multiple servers and consistently had to block hexbear users until finally blocking hexbear outright. It's been a much better experience then.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 120 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

TLDR: they are right-wingers pretending to be left wing

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago (11 children)

I love this image. Something that always confused me is that they are communist, but support russia? An extremely far right government?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Authoritarians like authoritarian regimes. They'll perform extreme mental gymnastics to reconcile their preconceived notions with reality, like the tankies that declare China to be socialist. Also, most of them see the US as the Great Satan that is responsible for any and all evil in the world. Therefore anybody who opposes the Great Satan must be good.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

I can't help but wonder if tankies are the political equivalent of flat-earthers. I should probably ask that on NSQ some time, when I can figure out a way of asking that won't get me banned.

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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 35 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

block hexbear, lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml. And any user named "UniversalMonk" on any instance. You'll thank me later.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 28 points 15 hours ago

I'd probably be more selective about blocking users from lemmy.ml, but I'm a bit biased in the question given the server I chose when I joined Lemmy

[–] gi1242@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

my first account was on lemmy.ml because it was one of the top options on one of the apps I used. it stopped working with jerboa which why I switched to lemmy.world...

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 16 hours ago

Gotta catch'em all

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 48 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Hexbear, lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are the "Tankie Triad".

Hexbear is the worst most extreme of them and lemmy.ml is the least which is why they've managed to avoid getting defederated from world (either that or because they're like the third largest instance behind only .world and SJW)

Hexbear is pretty widely defederated

[–] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

A lot of .ml users and communities are there just because it was the only big instance much earlier on. I'm in no way a tankie but still use .ml a lot (a community I run is on there) because it was the first one I made and i'm too lazy to look into new instances or switch.

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

yeah the other two I definately agree with, but lemmy.ml is mostly tame.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

It's all under the surface, the admins, mods and a good portion of users have just as extreme viewpoints, but tend to walk the line quite carefully to avoid being defederated by .world

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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

All I heard of before is that lemmygrad is more "extreme" than hexbear? My instance defederates from lemmygrad, but federates with hexbear, I don't know the exact reason for this though.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 4 points 9 hours ago

I was in an instance that was like that, but since they even made a post justifying their stance on keeping the federation with hex, I just jumped ship.
Not having to deal with ml, grad and hex is so much better.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Huh yea that's kinda weird, but it's also fairly subjective or perhaps your instance admins "straw that broke the camels back" just happened to be coming from lemmygrad at the time. But still weird to defederate from one and not the other regardless of which one was first lol

[–] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 50 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I would block hexbear. I've done it server-wide. They are mostly very loud trolls pretending to be communists. Some could be actual communists, but I don't buy anyone actually wanting to be in such a toxic environment and believe what they claim to believe.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 2 points 9 hours ago

To add to your comment: Blocking the instance at user level is pointless, it only blocks their posts,not their users, so you still have to deal with their bullshit and they post their propaganda at every instance that tolerates them so it makes its way to those who blocked it anyway.
The only solution is to defederate.

[–] kaprap@leminal.space 36 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

I'm sorry if I sound tone deaf I am new to Lemmy .~.

[–] itsnicodegallo@lemm.ee 9 points 14 hours ago

Howdy! Can confirm that most people and places I've seen on the Fediverse are lovely... Except Hexbear. They're one wall of cognitive dissonance away from being right wingers and constantly complaining that liberals are all lying to themselves about their liberalism. That THEY are the TRUE left wingers.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 26 points 18 hours ago

Welcome to lemmy! For the most part lemmy is nice place to be. You will still we the occasional crazy though. Defiantly not something you see all the time. If you find a user, community or instance popping off a bunch of crazy the best thing to do is block them. You won't be missing anything without them.

[–] Sciaphobia@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago

I nearly left lemmy because of Hexbear. Learning they could be blocked salvaged the platform for me. It's not just you - they are pretty widely reviled.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 19 points 18 hours ago

Welcome and there is zero need to apologize. Some people (and group of them) can be a real pain. Once you have learned how to filter them out, it's a nice place with nice people. There is no shame in blocking them, a bit like I would not let someone enter my home so they shout their nonsense into my ears, or make their mess on the carpet.

Once again, welcome ;)

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 17 points 16 hours ago

I'm sorry u had to experience these extremists. Block the instance and forget about them.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Tankies, mostly. They're on my blocklist,but managed to avoid it for a disgustingly long time; they do have some good content from time to time, but in the end seeing the repeated vitriol and genocide denialism simply wasn't worth it.

[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 7 hours ago

Hexbear is cool. I've learned a lot from them. the thing is, some of the people there can be a little brash at first. I recommend looking around the instance a bit before you decide on blocking it. some of them can be a little brash but they mean well.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Hexbear is a different instance where its users are basically a group of hard communism supporters. If you disliked their behavior, feel free to block their instance.

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They are not only hard communists, they have 0 interest in propagating their ideas, they only insult and despise everyone who is not 100% in agreement with them. In the best case, and I don't think it is, it is an endogamous community only for themselves, the opposite of what a federated social network is

[–] tht@social.pwned.page 0 points 6 hours ago

"tankie" here, dont really support them, they are the reason the left cant unify and are constantly infighting

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 10 points 17 hours ago

I’ve had more issues with .world mods then any of the communist ones.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 10 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Yes, you should definitely block Hexbear. They're a toxic, angry group of people, who have no intention of ever engaging in good faith.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (6 children)

Hexbear.net, lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad.ml have a lot of extreme leftists who have very wild takes that could be mistaken for right wing takes.

I personally don't recommend blocking them because outside of political threads they make up a lot of the content/memes/discussions, but up to you if you want to try that out.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

they make up a lot of the content/memes/discussions

Shouldn't be "rewarding" them with content/activity, they only have like 2 or 3 communities that crack the top 20 in MAUs these days anyways. And they're all .ml

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