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An excerpt from the article:

Ms. Jones has been scouring the West Los Angeles rental market to find a house that the family could rent for the next eight months, or longer. On Friday morning, she noticed something disturbing on the rents of at least three of the properties she had been tracking: 15 to 20 percent increases overnight.

The sudden surge in rental costs took Ms. Jones by surprise, but aligned with what she has noticed since wildfires started to tear through the Los Angeles area on Tuesday. Ms. Jones was touring a rental house in Beverly Hills with her client on Thursday when the listing agent raised the monthly cost by $3,000 — on the spot. Agents and landlords are aware that some displaced Angelenos might be willing to pay given the circumstance.

“People are so panicked and desperate to get into a house right now that they’re just throwing money into the wind,” Ms. Jones said. “People taking advantage of this. It’s horrendous.”

And now, totally unrelated to this, the definition of "parasitism":

Association between two different organisms wherein one benefits at the expense of the other.

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[–] chryan@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

15 to 20 percent increases overnight

the listing agent raised the monthly cost by $3,000

That's $15,000 a month, $180,000 a year before the price increase. Maybe try hunting for normal people rentals and others would have an ounce of care or sympathy for you.

I'd also wager that most of these people have properties themselves that they use to gouge money from others for "passive income". Well, they can passively suck it.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago

Yes, they suck.

But what they're gonna end up doing is renting a class down from what they were going to do, so they'll end up getting a house that would have been 60 grand a year, but is now 90 grand.

And the people who were going to do that are going to be renting a place that would have been cjlheape4, and so on.

In the end, the price-gouge4s on the high end raise rents for the rest of us. We've seen the same thing all over the country with the lack of available-for-purchase single-family homes as more and more places are build-to-rent only. That's kept renting apartments instead of buying houses, and apartment rents have skyrocketed.

There's a 1br apartment I rented about 10 years ago for $510/month. I just looked it up and it's now $1900 a month.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They're talking about a rental house, and in LA of all places

Everyone is in the same rental hellscape - you can sympathize with people being exploited even if they're in a different tax bracket than you. Have some class consciousness, jesus

[–] chryan@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Class consciousness? Last I checked, a 3-4 bedroom rental house in the LA area has plenty of options in the $4k to $8k range.

Here's a few examples for you.

Zillow doesn't even have a "price minimum" filter option greater than $10k a month.

The article specifically states some rental properties were increased, and the only example they gave was a property in a range that literally 99% of the population can't afford. Is the 1% now suddenly in the same class that I need to be conscious about?

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Class is about labor relations, not income.

At best those people are petty bourgeois, but they are still renting in this case, so still being exploited by a capitalist. By any marxist interpretation they'd still be working-class.

[–] chryan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don't disagree with you at all.

My comment assumed that they're making enough to own passive income properties that they rent to people who don't own properties, which is not uncommon amongst those making enough to afford that kind of rent.

Renting doesn't make you part of the proletariat if you own private property that gives you money without working.

However, it's definitely presumptuous of me to make such assumptions about who they are and what they own, as much as it is of you to assume that they are part of the labor force and aren't just wealthy investment bankers, so I won't belabor the point.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Maybe, but there is clearly someone in this situation that is exploiting their position as a capital owner, and it isn't the renters.

Neither will I belabor the point about presuming high earners to be a part of the bourgeoisie.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 86 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm a little horrified that a 15-20% hike is $3000.

That's uh, well, even before the price hike that makes me feel very Luigi....

[–] protist@mander.xyz 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The people who are looking for a rental in this article and who lost their Pacific Palisades home make an order of magnitude more money than you or I would ever expect to make

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

The indignity of living 6-figure paycheck to 6-figure paycheck.

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The rich are surprised because now -they- are the ones being taken advantage of.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

What's this? The consequences of my lifestyle choices and actions??? But I was assured the lepards wouldn't eat MY face!!! I'm one of the lepards!!!

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love that Luigi is a verb now.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Welt@lazysoci.al -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

*adverb - "Luigi" is modifying the verb "feel", not a noun

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's not modifying "feel," it's the object of "feel." It functions in that capacity as an adjective. You could make it an adverb by changing it to "makes me Luigily feel."

In "I would happily feel happy," happily is an adverb and happy is an adjective, for example.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

That's a lot of coins. Makes me bump my head on question mark blocks.

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah these people clearly have (many) other options for housing.

Honestly not sure why this article even exists if this is the most egregious example of price gouging they could find.

[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Headlines soon: "Residents gouging landlords"

If this shit doesn't stop, that's the final outcome. People are getting insanely desperate.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago
[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Now I would just like to take a moment to warn anyone who owns an investment property near the fires that the listings are online with the exact address where literally anyone can find them, they can see that you are taking advantage of the market conditions as is only fair to improve your financial position, they know the house is unoccupied and probably isnt being surveiled or protected in any meaningful way.

There is next to nothing to stop people with no respect for the law or how hard you work from going straight to the property and vandalising it or otherwise making the property unrentable. They dont even need to break in, glue in the locks or spraying the garden with weed killer as they stroll past.

Please take care.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 12 hours ago

probably isnt being surveiled or protected in any meaningful way.

You should probably assume all of these properties at least have video doorbells and smart cameras

Doesn't mean you couldn't be brazen about it, especially if you have nothing to lose

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

They would have to decrease the rent price if a couple of windows are broken correct?

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well demand did go up.

Bunch of jackasses, I hope the landbastards' houses burn down and none of their family or pets are harmed and their houses are the only ones destroyed in the neighborhood.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

How about we just hope the pets can be rehomed because they didn't ask for asshole owners and don't deserve to be punished.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

Here's the thing though.....being an asshole doesn't affect pets. Pets have no concepts of rent, or money, or social class. Hell, even HITLER had a cat and a dog. I'm sure that dog loved hitler. And you can't blame the dog. The dog has no idea that the person he lives with signed paperwork to establish concentration camps.

The dog just knows he comes home, gives him treats, and then he, the dog, and ava braun all lay down by the fireplace, and watch netflix.

And so these dogs today, they're just the same. Living with assholes, and clueless. Just as it always has been.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

We only know they are terrible, greedy, and lazy people. There ain't enough to say they aren't wonderful animal caretakers that provide for their furry friends in excess of the reasonable base level.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Nice carve out haha. Safe!

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

Someone should do something about this.

Let's outlaw homelessness!