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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago) (1 children)

I wonder why nobody is considering the most obvious solution to all this complication around what is NSFW and what is not: Children shouldn't be on these platforms at all to begin with. They shouldn't be anywhere near social media until age 14. Definitely not free roaming everywhere on the internet.

For us adults, I honestly cannot say whether moderation instigated by a company is better than moderation instigated by the users. The devil is in the details. This place isn't moderated by a company and you'd probably think the moderation here is superior to Meta's.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago (1 children)

Pretty much all social media has a minimum age of 13 in their ToS. So what exactly are you suggesting? Raising it by 1 year?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 minute ago* (last edited 18 seconds ago)

Actually verifying it and punishing the companies if they let underaged people use it. Alcohol stores are also punished when they sell products to children.

[–] roawn@feddit.uk 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Posts with LGBTQ+ hashtags including #lesbian, #bisexual, #gay, #trans, #queer, #nonbinary, #pansexial, #transwomen, #Tgirl, #Tboy, #Tgirlsarebeautiful, #bisexualpride, #lesbianpride, and dozens of others were hidden for any users who had their sensitive content filter turned on. Teenagers have the sensitive content filter turned on by default.

Kids wont even know what they will lose with his representation going missing on Instagram. So depressing. Wish that lizard freak the worst.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Wait, Pro-LGBT speech IS NOT allowed!?!?! Holy fucking shit, this isn't a cesspool, it's an execution by firing squad.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -4 points 2 hours ago

I remember there were plenty of little bitches saying that censorship won't be turned the other way and that it allows to remove bad people from the Internet. That bad people should be censored, and Reddit\Twitter\Facebook when used for politics will not be abused by bot armies, and that censorship will not be repurposed very easily.

I was being accused of being a right-wing troll, a luddite, a retard, an incel and what not for saying that they were wrong on every point.

Yes, even bad people should not be censored. When they misbehave, they should be barred from the place they harmed, ideally not forever, but for a week or so maximum.

I've learned this not just in morals, but in practice, when repeatedly banned on one forum by an admin of directly opposite political views ... for 24 hours max each time after multiple warnings, and only once a week or a month (can't remember) much later when I joked about exploding Muslims. Despite that, I was (I hope) a good enough member of that forum for like 10 years after, till now. Apes waving banhammers today have something to learn from that.

But that's not the point, the point is that even if you consider centralized censorship good, that's how it works.

So getting back to little bitches loving censorship - where are they now and do they have anything to say?

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I guess advertisers have no issues with Meta’s changes. Interesting. A few years ago, they’d be falling over themselves to signal that “hate has no place here”. But it is no longer profitable to be LGBTQ+ so let the hateful bell ring.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 24 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Eh. The advertisers will be back to supporting LGBTQ whenever that month of year comes back

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 13 hours ago

This year? Doubt.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 81 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (14 children)

~~LGBTQ+~~ Everyone, but LGBTQ+ people especially need to get the the fuck off of Meta services now, they've showed what side they're on.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 36 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Straight+cis people too. I'm downloading an export of my Facebook info as we speak in preparation for closing it down.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 15 hours ago

I just deleted my old, disused Instagram account I hadn't touched in a long long time. Nothing even worth saving since I never uploaded anything to it. It was the only Meta account I still had around.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

I was in admin chat on facebook and it was blocking any posts with links to https://lemmy.world/. I was talking to admins about firing up a lemmy instance and leave the FB group as a link to a lemmy community

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm kinda shocked people still actively use Facebook.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Only ~3,000,000,000 people/month.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

I would take the 3 B number with a pinch of salt. Its 3 B accounts, not unique individuals.

At one point last decade I had 11 seperate Facebook accounts, used for various purposes. They're all deleted now, but my behaviour is not unique. There will be many, many people running multiple accounts, and don't forget bots

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 24 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Never used Facebook, never fucking will.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't in over a decade. I think I'm up to eight different word filters trying to stop news stories about this from showing up on my feed. If they didn't have such a stupid name I could just block the term meta.

Plot twist: that was their plan all along.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What about WhatsApp?

What about Instagram?

Also does your Lemmy instance federate with Threads?

[–] Glasgow@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

WhatsApp is encrypted and much less open to manipulation. Will be switching to matrix once 2.0 is stable and recommendable.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 14 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

Friendly reminder: Deleting your account won't accomplish what you think it will.

Facebook will still keep all data that is associated with other users as per their own disclaimer. They also still keep logs that are "disassociated with personal identifiers. "

So all training can still occur. And understand what while Jane Smith may have deleted her account, they still have all the data it takes to indicate that User 12345 was tagged in photos with John Smith at the Burger King on 404 Fake St. And, because of that, the data that User 12345 had previously provided is ALSO John Smith's data. And Fred Wilkerson since he was at that Burger King once. And so forth.

And ALL that data is still there for training.

So do what you gotta do to make it less appealing to other users. But understand your data is already out there and is never going away. Same with reddit and all other social media (which includes Lemmy).

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 25 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah but you know what? That's still better than actively engaging with their "services".

Eventually, it'll just be bots interacting with themselves, given enough time.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Eventually, it'll just be bots interacting with themselves, given enough time.

It seems like that's a good chunk of it already

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 15 hours ago

Yes. Like I said. Do what you gotta do to make it less appealing to other users.

But if, for example, you are an LGBTQIA+ person who thinks this will provide any form of protection...

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If you're in the US, sure. If you're in Europe you can compel them to completely delete everything as per the GDPR.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 14 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

And I am sure a company that is now openly training their LLMs on copyrighted materials is going to totally comply with all of that...

One of these days people are going to learn "But it is against the law" doesn't apply to the rich and powerful, law enforcement, or megacorporations.

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