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Donald Trump criticized President Biden’s decision to commute the sentences of 37 federal death row inmates, calling them “violent criminals” and wishing them to go to hell.

Trump also took the opportunity to sarcastically wish a “Merry Christmas” to Chinese troops in the Panama Canal and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

Trump’s post also included references to his previous attempts to purchase Greenland and his suggestion that Wayne Gretzky run for Canadian Prime Minister.

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 109 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Why do we have to hang on every word this fucking arsehole says? He's an utter cretin.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 58 points 2 weeks ago

Well the media invested a lot of time and effort to get him elected and now they want to cash in on all that hard work.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Four years.

Four goddamn years I had to wake up every day and pay attention to what asinine shit the President of the United States tweeted.

Because, unfortunately, that utter cretin had the nuclear button.

And now we have to endure another four years of the same.

Shit, for all the bad things you can say about Biden, you can at least say that whenever you heard a story start with "Today, the president said..." in the news, you weren't immediately going "ah fuck here we go". Four years I dealt with that kind of reflexive dread.

God, I wish I could just slip into a coma until 2029.

Honestly, if we get out of this one without some sort of nuclear exchange, I’m going to be mildly shocked. Remember: this is the guy who had to be talked down from nuking a fucking hurricane, and apparently it took a while to convince him it wasn’t the sharpest idea.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Personally I'd like to keep up with the Canada comments considering he's threatening to annex our fucking country. Americans, fix your country

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's not my country. Mine has it's moments but it's not that stupid.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't feel like it's our country anymore either...

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Because he's itching for vengeance against his enemies and is about to be in charge of the most powerful military and intelligence operations in the history of the world.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 81 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He sure does talk a lot of shit about death penalty for someone who allegedly committed high treason, punishable by death.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] Pechente@feddit.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

Not to mention that no other OECD country except for Japan still has it.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

I have two reasons why I'm against it.

  1. Innocent people will get sentenced. There's no way around that. Sententing an innocent person to death is among the greatest injustices I can think of so I'll rather have someone guilty walk free. Granted that sentencing an innocent person to life in prison aint that much better but this is where the second reason comes in.

  2. I don't believe in free will. Punishing someone for something they did is not compatible with the way I see the word*. It's like punishing a grizzly bear for attacking a person. If you're danger to society you should be locked up one way or another but not as a punishment but to keep others safe. I think that even if you're a murderer you should be treated well and we should figure out a way for them to live relatively normal lives behind the bars. They can't help themselves. They didn't choose to be born that way and thus shouldn't be punished as if they could have acted otherwise.

* Risk of consequences still works as a deterrence and that "punishment" be it fine or jail time should still be carried out because otherwise it loses its credibility.

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In extreme cases sure, tho I feel the need to point out the context of the vats majority of criminals being conditioned into crime by their surrounding. Poverty and discrimination come to mind among others. I my opinion the best way to prevent anything is to hit it at its source, in this case making every day life more livable. Not only does that mean life must be comfortably affordable, but mental health should also be a top priority.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't disagree with any of that nor do I feel like it goes against anything I just said.

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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I absolutely agree with point 1.

I've never really thought about point 2. I don't think I'm ready to say I don't believe in free will, but I do agree that people are largely a product of their circumstances. I think in the case of a serial killer, it might not meet your definition of "free will" but it's a person who has been methodical about the taking of life and not shown any contrition.

I would however add point 3. I don't want to take someone's life even if they deserve to die.

... and point 4 I just thought of... there's not really any good reasons for capital punishment. It's not a deterrent, and who cares about the cost of incarceration really.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Cost of an execution is more than the cost of life in prison as well.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Doesn't point 2 kind of justify execution too? We're not chosing to execute that action it was pre-determined that we would execute that person from the moment the universe began.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Just because it happened doesn't mean it wasn't a mistake that we can learn from. In that regard, it was not justified.

Now if you are talking about taking the same action in a parallel universe, then that definitely depends on the perspective you're modelling.

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[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

History is filled with innocent bodies due to the death penalty.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

Before I clicked this link, I already had visions of that kid with tears in his eyes as they put him in the electric chair... and hoped that it wasn't the same one.

I'm surprised to learn he's 14, he looks 9!

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He should do that himself, he would be right at home.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago

We don't want him

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Reminder that about 1 in 25 people on death row are estimated to be innocent.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Reminder trumps been found very very guilty.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 5 points 2 weeks ago

That's a good thing.

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[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

Old man yells at clouds

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Actually he said "Governor" Trudeau

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

were just given, incredibly, a pardon by Sleepy Joe Biden

dumfuk lying again. on purpose. trying to get the cult riled-up over 'pardons' that didn't happen.

a commuted sentence is not a pardon.

these 37 men are still guilty. they are still in jail.. for life.. without parole. they will remain there and never be released.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The best part is nobody fucken knows what that means and they just believe these dudes are instantly set upon the streets.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's just insane to me how many Americans are so stupid that they don't hear something like that, and think, "well that's quite the claim, I wonder if it's true..."

These people have zero incredulity. They choose to believe the most insane shit with no evidence based entirely on how they feel about the person who said it.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I mean I see it happen on Lemmy with fake tweets and such. Divide the parties into eight at least, destroy Citizens United and make its practices illegal. Only allow campaign donations from the public, no private entities. We have to fix this before we all fall to tribalism and the systematic deconstruction of education.

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[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 24 points 2 weeks ago

Who the fuck cares what this guy writes on Christmas. Dude just says the same ignorant shit over and over to rile up his supporters.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

A tyrant's rage

A nation divide

Like toddlers tears

When rattles denied

"That was my thing!"

Now broken plans

As he wipes a tear

with little hands

Biden stole

His hateful thunder

Who's next in sight?

I mustn't wonder.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He's got some real skill at expressing inarticulate, impotent rage.

And if there were a Hell, Trump would be headed for the least pleasant precinct in it.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

He's already there, and we're living in it with him. This is the bad place.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He’s so damn embarrassing. What the heck did I just read

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

but he was the first "president" to march in the "pro life" rally 🙄

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Trump, do you really want those violent criminals to go to the same place you’re destined for?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

In the great Christmas spirit.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

"You first."

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 8 points 2 weeks ago

Trump is sad that he only gets execute one of the remaining three. The other two (Dylan Roof and Robert Bowers) are destined for bigger things in the Trump cabinet.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

What, does it want to have tea with them in about a decade?

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, he's pissed because the neo Nazis weren't commuted.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Then he can do that himself in a couple of weeks. I was just joking that he was going to hell.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

Quite a display of senile dementia.

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