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Tankie admins continue to waste their time by banning users who are already defederated, meaning none of these users could post anyway—also some genocide denialism and being proud of an echo-chamber (sh.itjust.works)

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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's always so cute seeing Hexbear users fail time and time again at how the fediverse works. Remember when they made posts saying, "Hey, we gotta get more opinions and diversity!" and less than a day they bugged out?

This poor comrade had to go through a list of 60 different users to ban them from posting on Hexbear!

Oh? you didn't get your ban message? That's because Hexbear is defederated, lmao, they keep going through three separate communities posts, from beginning to end, banning users who are already banned!

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

also @randint@lemm.ee, they were talking about you in this post

[–] randint@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow, they actually were talking about me. That admin is really arrogant.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

They talk about this community nonstop lol

[–] gsa32@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You know you did something right when you trigger someone from Hexbear or Lemmygrad

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

'Someone discussed us somewhere else - unacceptable.'

Uh huh.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

It's pathetic. I wish I could laugh at this example, but it's just really... sad.

[–] daftantimony@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Typical ML. If there's something they like more than a good purge, it must be to justify it.

[+] lowered_lifted@sh.itjust.works -17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

you would do the same if hexbear users came here to troll though would you not

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, tankies are allowed so long as they follow the rules! They can talk about communism and argue how bad capitalism is. What they can't do is talk positively about the atrocities by authoritarian regimes.

you can even check out the modlog! I make sure not to ban anyone for more than a week and always give a warning beforehand.

[–] adriaan@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

They are authoritarians first and foremost, so it's a bit of a tough one for them there

[–] cacheson@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think my favorite was the one that came in here hoping to get a rise out of us by saying "death to landlords". I mean, definitely 3edgy5me, but otherwise yes, landlords bad? I feel like that sentiment could win a majority vote here.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's so ridiculous because the majority of things they believe are nonoffensive or agreeable to the left broadly, but they are SO. GODDAMN. INSISTENT. on throating authoritarian cocks that they are absolutely intolerable as political allies.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

This. They believe in a lot of the things we do but don't want to believe their heroes are fucking monsters. Their unwavering support of the trans and gay communities is great, but Marx help you if you bring up the USSR and CCP didn't take kindly to them. They could be allies to other leftists but end up being insufferable.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Adam Smith, Father of Capitalism: "Death to landlords"

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When even the capitalists can see that rentseeking is bad for the economy, I'm not sure why we have to fight over it all the time. Classic case of zealots not reading their own literature I guess.

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rent seeking in classical economics is about monopolists abusing their market position. I'm sure there are some monopolistic landlords but doubt it's the average case.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The rent of the land, therefore, considered as the price paid for the use of the land, is naturally a monopoly price. It is not at all proportioned to what the landlord may have laid out upon the improvement of the land, or to what he can afford to take; but to what the farmer can afford to give.

I’m not sure even Adam Smith of all people agrees with you

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Good quote thanks. I suppose he refers to the specific plot of land being rented. Still, I'm just telling what I learned in my economics a-level.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A monopoly is not necessary, just enough influence to affect policy. The biggest landlords are some of the most abusive and manipulative, and engage in much lobbying. Their collusion is part of why housing costs so much, and the government refusing to investigate it is due to their lobbying. Literal rentseeking lol, but yes I'm aware the word isn't usually so straightforward.

I like this definition:

Rentseeking is an economic concept that occurs when an entity seeks to gain added wealth without any reciprocal contribution of productivity.

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I like the definition too. Use of power to gain an advantage.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I sued my landlord, do I get a banana sticker from hexbear?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

pretty much sums it up

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop getting dunked on

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, be nice

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

You're right, that was mean and I apologize.