I had that issue before the explicit sync was implemented in the nvidia driver for Wayland. It's got to be related to that.
Out of order frameworks a is literally a frame syncronization error.
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Weirdly enough I am on explicit sync. I tried on Plasma and this didn't happen, still had its own problems. X11 was literally flawless though? Weird..
The way x11 handles frames makes this a Wayland exclusive issue sadly. I'm on plasma so that might be why my issues was fixed. Weird indeed. Good luck in any case, these kind of issues are annoying as hell.
Hey! I tried fixing this problem for years on a laptop using and AMD CPU and Nvidia GTX 1650 because it made Trackmania unplayable at my level of competition. Never managed to fix it, I just changed PC in the end.
The struggle is real 😞
What GPU do you use now? AMD or NVIDIA?
Amd on desktop, amd on laptop iGPU, and amd on steam deck. Never encountered this kind of weird stutter backtrack agaim. Funniest thing, it would even happen to software like Firefox if I made em run on the gpu
Well, i'm fucked. I think i'm going to have to return to windows.
I've learned my lesson, NEVER buy nvidia.
thanks for all the help everyone, and happy holidays :)
Sorry for you troubles, but curious, what game is this? The map is obviously from GMod but nothing else looks like Gmod
Not a problem, it's the sandbox map from Ultrakill.
Does hyprland support explicit sync at all? That sounds like the explicit sync issue that was fixed earlier this year.
Edit: Could run waycheck and see if linux-drm-syncobj-v1 (explict sync) is listed. I looked for NixOS and it "should" be supported, but best to double check.
Yup, explicit sync is implemented on Hyprland, i tried waycheck.
That's some FOV
lmao yeah, you get used to it eventually. I can't play on 90 FOV anymore, it seems small now 😅
try disabling the gsp, helped a lot with weird stutters on my system (kde/plasma, wayland, 3090, 565 driver).
IIRC it was just setting NVreg_EnableGpuFirmware=0 to nvidia module
edit: only works for the regular nvidia driver, not for nvidia-open
I disabled it, but nothing changed (i used regular NVIDIA and made sure it was disabled, too), but thank you
probably asking the obvious, but you did the ... whatever mkinitcpio does, after changing the module's config? Totally derped with that myself and wondered why my new settings didn't take x)
I use nixos and it doesn't use mkinitcpio. Rebuid, reboot, and it works. I also made sure I disabled the GSP using nvidia-smi, so I'm sure that it isn't the problem.
Try using X11 instead of Wayland. Seems like an XWayland or Wayland issue.
Well fuck me, X11 doesn't have this issue at all. but i use wayland because X11 has its own set of bugs that causes me headaches. It's a lose-lose for me.
Nvidia kinda sucks on Linux because of the poor Wayland support and slow turnaround time on Wayland bug fixes, sadly
I had this happen on Fedora with amd cards as well. At the time I was using riverwm which is based on wlroots. I tried a few other WMs that also used wlroots and had the same problem, so I think the issue is somehow related to wlroots but I don't know enough about it to be sure.
When I tried on KDE Plasma (Kwin) I had no issue. So you may want to try Plasma or Gnome and see if the issue persists.
Tried plasma, the bug was "fixed", but the performance was horrid.
fyi, hyprland isn't wlroots anymore, its standalone :)
ok, I haven't used hyprland so I wasn't sure. The wayland tiling WMs I tried all had the same problem so I don't know what the underlying cause is. I personally don't have performance issues on wayland plasma and I don't have an nvidia card in a linux system so I can't test it further. I hope you are able to figure it out.
I've got a 4070ti running most recent nvidia-open on arch and haven't had that happen, but I don't tend to run with vsync often.
What proton version are you running this on? Had some weird almost microstutters in cutscenes playing DA:Veilguard through moonlight on my steamdeck. Swapping to experimental resolved that, think it was one version of proton-ge that I had the issue with.
Do you have vrr enabled by any chance?
Are you running through gamescope? Have had grief with gamescope and nvidia, but that was mostly with hdr.
Many old games have vsync enabled by default :/ happens with all proton versions (I use ge), don't use vrr or gamescope, but I'll try on experimental again JIC if I was wrong (god I hope, lol) thanks for the tip.
edit: experimental didn't work either :(