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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 2 points 8 minutes ago

I'm sure the alternative will be much better for unions, right guys? After all, demolishing the foundations of the country is fine as long as it teaches that one politician that she could have been better!

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Term and age limits for all elected politicians serving all levels. Two terms and 65 is the maximum age to enter the election. In addition, get rid of the Electoral College.

The union members who voted for Putin's Sock Puppet do not realize the damage they are going inflict on the US blue-collar sector.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 3 points 55 minutes ago

America's fate is sealed, the country we've known, flaws and all is done. Before it was an Oligarchy pretending to be a Democratic Republic, Now its just going to stop pretending, America's going to resemble Russia in the 90s for a bit as the country gets carved up by corporate interests and gangsters in suits

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Term limits mean the only people left in washing that understand the system are lobbyists and consultants. As for age, there should be twice annual fitness tests after the age of 65. There are some geezers that are still very capable mentally.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Any system based on medical or intellectual tests is doomed to fail. There's a reason we had to end literacy tests. Any test has to have people that design, administer, and grade the test. Age limits are a crude and blunt instrument, but there is a reason we use them for other matters of politics in the early stages of life. We have a voting age, not a voting competency test. And we have minimum ages for House, Senate, and Presidency eligibility. Yes, you could try to write qualifying exams for these positions, but the history of literary tests shows how that would go. Age is a crude instrument, but it is objective. You were born on certain day, and assuming accurate public records, that is a fact that isn't open to interpretation. It is clear and unambiguous.

An age limit for high offices makes perfect sense. If we can have minimum ages, we can have maximum ages. And any argument for why maximum ages won't work would also apply to minimum ages, yet our constitution is based on minimum ages, not fuzzy ability tests.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

You have a moronic take. I understand the federal government's inner workings better than Trump and I've served 0 terms as president.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So Bernie shouldn't be a politician anymore?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Probably a fair trade to remove half the mummies in congress and get younger more progressive people in there. Bernie is getting on in years, we should be supporting potential replacements regardless.

[–] aaa999@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

elon is arguing for term limits

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] aaa999@lemmy.world 0 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

term limits give even more policy setting power to elon, a guy who is rich but not elected

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

That's not really true, Elon's "position" already doesn't have a term limit already. Even if he supports it doesn't automatically make it bad for us or good for him, you need to support your argument.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The statement reflects the actions of the Kamala campaign and the Dem party, so I believe it. Will Democrats ever change, though? Not until the old guard relinquishes their tight grasp on the party and allows it to operate democratically. The old guard are corrupt and they are paid by the same ultra wealthy donors that pay Republicans. The only reason the Tea Party was successful in taking over the Republican party was that there was a huge amount of funding behind them. An equivalent leftist force does not exist because there is no monied interest that would fund an insurgency on the left (except for the masses— think Bernie 2016, 2020, but we would need even more to create a lasting insurgency of equal scale). In light of this, the Democratic party has continuously pursued a "third way" approach to become essentially Republican with some social equality. The Democratic brand stands for nothing anymore.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

because there is no monied interest that would fund an insurgency on the left

There could be, but in the last 2 decades such companies generally went down or at least didn't grow into something significant and were not being helped by the state and such when having problems. I agree that politics reflect money.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The old guard are corrupt and they are paid by the same ultra wealthy donors that pay Republicans.

I don't think it's actually possible to win national elections in this country post citizens united without the ultra wealthy donor class. I'd love to be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

Bernie's campaign loved pointing out the average donation was $27. The issue in 2016 was media coverage for him that the Dems knowingly sabotaged iirc.

[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 13 hours ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 153 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

Reminder: this is the same Teamster that spoke at the Republican convention, making these comments to Tucker Carlson.

You probably shouldn't take this at face value and assume this was her attitude toward labor in general.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 14 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

A major union head went on Tucker Carlson's podcast... gross. Harris could have done more to appeal to workers, but this dude can't paint himself as a neutral politically-impartial leader!

Yes because politically neutral means only going on democrat podcasts.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's bullshit on it's face. Biden told Congress they should pass the PRO Act, Harris echoed that ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

One of the provisions of the PRO Act is to gut right-to-work laws by allowing Unions to collect dues from every employee at a Union shop.

So the guy is just lying about that, of course there's no way for me to know if she wagged her finger in a Teamster's face.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Excuse my ignorance on American doublespeak, but does the "right to work" just mean the "right for companies to employ scabs"?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago

They named it that so it would get confused with similarly named laws that protect the rights of workers.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

right to work laws "protect" workers from unions forcing them to pay dues so: yes.

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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (21 children)

I'm sure one of a great many statements that aged like milk. The sheer contempt that Democrat politicians have for voters is breathtaking. Maybe some day they'll care about voters the way they very obviously care about corporate donors.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand this.

The statement made means "are you with me or not, I'm not going to stop on your behalf"

And generally the campaign trail was pro workers rights, the activism history was for workers rights.

So it sounds like teamsters had something else going on? It seems like this thread is reading it wrong.

...Biden and Harris broke multiple strikes.

Yeah, great, they advocated for the PRO act the same way they advocated for m4a or a ceasefire in Palestine.

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