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[–] zante@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

EV sales in China have been boosted by government subsidies. which encourage consumers to trade their petrol-powered cars for EVs or hybrids. 

But there is a growing backlash abroad against what some see as the Chinese government's unfair support for domestic car makers.

Just the bbc doing BBC things

[–] logi@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Congratulations, you found the second and third last paragraphs of the article where they tack on a slightly wider view in case you've missed it. It's far from being the meat of the story.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 8 points 2 days ago

Yeah, bailing local car companies was OK.

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, there really is talk of tariffs several places to neutralise the price advantage that the Chinese subsidies result in. The Chinese want to promote their domestic auto industries, but so does any other country with an auto industry.

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right but it reads very “omg communism Bad cuz it leads to… affordable electric vehicles… please ignore every other country that produces cars also having subsidies.” The US changed its subsidies to only US built EVs and then complains that the Chinese government is making EVs affordable.

[–] zante@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago

When they do it, it’s “subsidies” When we do it, it’s “investment”

The list of government incentives in the UK is long but If china is doing even more , that’s up to them right ? But it’s always implied it’s some kind of foul play.

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm from Brazil. It's impressive how fast BYD cars have been multiplying in my city.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, it's because they are cheap and decent. But I guess it's impressive since other car makers have failed to do the same thing.

Where I live, electric cars are much more expensive than fuel cars. We do have these Chinese low cost cars too though but they are probably not great for winter. I don't trust things not to break.

It's like Teslas, also not known for their quality, despite their high price.

If it's one thing I want to have good quality, it's my car, since my life can depend on it.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well, we know why they're cheap now lol

Because they subsidized the technology and industry in China. If Apple bids out a contract to build a manufacturing plant in the U.S. and someone makes a bid that looks good, they take it. If it got halted because the company was using minors and paying illegal migrants under the table to build it, it is a terrible thing, but it wasn't Apple that did those things, and in ruth I would say Apple may have grounds to sue for the impact it would have on their image. The company that made the bid and did illegal acts should not have done those things.

Apple and BYD don't construct manufacturing plants... They bid them out to companies that do. They should come down hard on those companies if they are using illegal practices to make cheaper bids to encourage companies to go with them. The biggest fault they would have is if they found out it was going on and didn't bring it to authorities.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We have evidence now, but I could have told you this years ago. Cheap products have been the product of environmental and human rights abuses for a long, long time.

Oh, I'm well aware of that. The part that grabbed my attention is that it appeared these were migrant workers brought in to Brazil.

Essentially the cheap Chinese factories are diversifying where they are located, but not how they staff them.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

had their passports and salaries withheld by a building company

Usually "conditions similar to slavery" in Brazil doesn't imply the people can't quit their jobs. This is fucking "literal", not "similar".

Also, WTF, importing cheap workers to a job in Brazil is close to absurd. They aren't allowed to pay less than they would pay a local.